July 13, 2014

@teachkiwi hosts ROLE: Results Only Learning Environments

  1. Welcome to #txeduchat tonight! We are glad you are here. Let's start with INTRODUCTIONS. Share a little about YOU!
  2. Hi everyone, I'm Tom in North Texas & I learn from/teach amazing 4th grade rock stars! #txeduchat #bestjobintheworld
  3. IMPORTANT--->>Remember to use the #txeduchat hashtag on all of your tweets tonight so that others can follow along.
  4. my bestie is from Texas so I thought I'd check yall out...I'm Jackie HS Math Teacher in suburbs of Chicago #txeduchat
  5. Mike just moved to College Station to teach 4th grade @NavasotaInt next year. #txeduchat
  6. Good evening, #txeduchat! Joy from IL - 7th gr ELA teacher joining in as I loved ROLE Reversal by @markbarnes19 :)
  7. Kirsten Wilson, IT Coach for Northwest ISD, NFW, Texas... first time to drop my Tween off at the movies, didn't want me w/ her:-( #txeduchat
  8. @jillgrafton Yup - for a bit - tired and want to read, but feel compelled! Would like to hear others' ideas for ROLE. #txeduchat
  9. @JoyKirr @markbarnes19 Welcome Joy! So glad you are here... I see your summer calendar didn't fail you! #txeduchat
  10. #txeduchat Hi! Everyone, Tom from NJ, Happily Married for 19 years and Proud Dad to two teenage boys. Passionate about education.
  11. @DrChrisLongo Welcome! So glad you are here. Tonight's chat is so important for leaders to be part of the convo. #txeduchat
  12. Jill from Va checking I after lazy day on the river #txeduchat
  13. Liza Browne, 1st gr bilingual, Mesquite. Hi everyone! #txeduchat
  14. @snydesn2 Welcome Tom from NJ... We are really glad that you are here tonight! #txeduchat
  15. #txeduchat Dawn from CA - #SPED Middle School #Leadership Thanks for having me. Exciting topic.
  16. Hello everyone! Jan Hodge from North Texas area and looking forward to the chat! #txeduchat
  17. #txeduchat Derek Kennedy windsor ontario. What a great topic. Glad to be here.
  18. @sara_hutson I am so glad you are here! #txeduchat the reason I am hosting tonight is because of you! #txeduchat
  19. It is fantastic to see so many of the #txeduchat regular Sunday night chatters! This is YOUR community. YOUR PLN.
  20. Remember to use the Q1: A1: format for Questions and Answers in our chat. This makes it easier to follow along. #txeduchat
  21. Q1: How can we help motivate students & hopefully have them find joy in learning? #txeduchat
  22. We will follow the Q1/A1 format. When referring to Results Only Learning Environment we will use ROLE. Let's get started! #txeduchat
  23. Welcome to #txeduchat tonight we will explore an instructional design I recently learned about... Results Only Learning Environment (ROLE).
  24. Phew! I don't feel like I'm butting in to a different state's chat - #txeduchat has a TON of visitors from all over!
  25. Sped director, tweet stalker, and on vacation at destin. #txeduchat
  26. A1: Based on Dan Pink’s book, in order to motivate provide autonomy-create space where joy is found in performance of the task. #txeduchat
  27. Wendy... Instructional support teacher, looking forward to our chat! #txeduchat
  28. WOW! There are several new people in the chat tonight. We are really glad that you joined us and hope to see you again. #txeduchat
  29. A1: Get to know the Ss and incorporate their interests and passions in learning experiences. #txeduchat
  30. @_Wendy22_ Welcome Wendy - we are on Q1 right now. How can we help motivate students & hopefully have them find joy in learning? #txeduchat
  31. A1: Giving students CHOICE whenever you can helps motivate & find joy in learning. Grow a culture of trust. #txeduchat
  32. A1: A central tenet in motivating students is differentiating and tapping into their INTERESTS. #txeduchat
  33. A1: Read Teach Like a Pirate to start your inspiration! #TLAP #txeduchat
  34. A1: Just wrote a research paper on this for Admin. Class...research shows a narrative feedback type of assessment, no grades work #txeduchat
  35. A1: motivate Ss by being passionate about what your teaching. Also make it enjoyable and fun. #txeduchat
  36. Q1: Helping Ss self-regulate using rubrics and feedback. #txeduchat
  37. A1 connect with your students, know what they LOVE and take interest in! #txeduchat
  38. Hello #txeduchat! Heidi, 5th grade, Wisconsin. Glad to be here to check it out!
  39. @teachkiwi A1 let them show their passion and build from there. And a 3D printer helps too #txeduchat
  40. A1: make those connections n know what drives each of ur students #txeduchat
  41. #txeduchat A1 keep it authentic for the Ss and build relationships…repeat
  42. A1: We can motivate students by having good relationships with them #txeduchat
  43. A1: Students need to be empowered & able to determine their own path has often as possible in my opinion #txeduchat
  44. @ryanvhill Love it, we are going to be getting to feedback too. Love to hear your thoughts! #txeduchat and examples!!!
  45. A1: Model my passion and enthusiasm for learning. Show them how I fail, learn, & try again! #txeduchat
  46. A1 make the learning relevant and personal.Give Ss opportunities to make choices how they will learn and show what they've learn #txeduchat
  47. #txeduchat PBL is a powerful way to create student engagement. Look what happened at Warren Elementary School  http://www.pinterest.com/critterkin/start-with-the-heart-wes/ 
  48. @JoyKirr I know I know...not a popular stance but that is what the research shows, increase motivation and achievement #txeduchat
  49. @mrdonnelly3 Definitely think this is key Michael, if Ss know we care about them it changes the game in my opinion! #txeduchat
  50. @teachkiwi A1 focus on tools they already know to increase their ownership #txeduchat
  51. Sorry to jump in late. Nathan, HS principal from Houston. #txeduchat
  52. A1: Students find joy in learning when they are creating projects and products of choice in a safe & supportive environment. #txeduchat
  53. glad to be here for #txeduchat tonight! Sonja from Nacogdoches. high school librarian
  54. @MathEdJax Hi Jackie! Love that you read #tlap! Please join the #tlap chat tomorrow at 8:00 CST! Yours truly is co-moderating! #txeduchat
  55. @teachkiwi Help them discover the meaning of "To thine own self be true" and build interest-driven lessons. #txeduchat @JoyKirr
  56. @Tom_Kilgore The saying goes something like "they don't care what you know until they know that you care" #txeduchat
  57. Forgot to introduce myself! Cassie, also in College Station to teach 4th gr @NavasotaInt with @mrdonnelly3! #txeduchat
  58. A1: give the students an attainable goal. Something to strive for. Not just a grade. #txeduchat
  59. Yes! Well stated. MT @toddallgor A1 make the learning relevant and personal.Give Ss opportunities to make choices #txeduchat
  60. A1 @andreakornowski definitely getting their interests involved! And helping them see the benefits in the learning victories #TXEDUCHAT
  61. @jillgrafton @JoyKirr No doubt about the pushback...in the face of overwhelming evidence Pp still choose what is comfortable. #txeduchat
  62. 4th grade at LCM ... A1 The kids have got to want to be there! Make it real life and meaningful!! #txeduchat
  63. A1: They need to be able to relate to the material and be able to apply the content to their lives. #txeduchat
  64. @nathan_stevens: @teachkiwi A1 let them show their passion and build from there. And a 3D printer helps too #txeduchat”I have my eyes on 1
  65. #txeduchat A1 #celebrate approximations & "small" wins. They don't need to be good now. Rejoice the #try. #Smile & #Laugh w/them.
  66. @toddallgor Any tips on helping Ss find relevance Todd, or examples of how it has worked? #txeduchat
  67. A1: Allow their voice to be heard. Know their interests and learning styles. Give them choice! #txeduchat
  68. @ryanvhill @jillgrafton Hard to break from status quo. Who wants to be uncomfortable? (UGH!) That's why we're here! #txeduchat
  69. A1 Make the learning exciting and enthusiastic to be a part of. #txeduchat
  70. @goodbooklady Welcome Linda. We love our friends in Round Rock! Did you know that @rrisdpd offers PD credit for attending #txeduchat
  71. @bethhill2829 The voice & choice terms are definitely used a great deal but they ring true in my opinion Bethany! #txeduchat
  72. @JoyKirr @ryanvhill #txeduchat we have “open” grade book for parents…so what if there is only one grade per q.? not sure how that flies...
  73. .@mrdonnelly3 Absolutely! We can do that when we are purposeful and clear w/ learning targets, feedback and coaching for mastery #txeduchat
  74. I'm a big fan of giving kids choice to creat incentive #txeduchat
  75. #txeduchat A1: Nothing more motivating than relationships. Reach the heart first. Then make learning relevant & at their level.
  76. Q2: Should teachers be eliminating HW, worksheets, & traditional grading? How have you done this? #txeduchat
  77. @Tom_Kilgore In order for kids to take ownership of their learning they must play a role in defining how it happens. :) #txeduchat
  78. A1 develop relationships so they will trust you that it is relevant and helpful to them; also, praise them when appropriate. #txeduchat
  79. @markbarnes19 Thanks Mark, we definitely appreciate you joining the conversation sir! #txeduchat
  80. @Tom_Kilgore Having students pick topics to expand on that they think are important. #txeduchat
  81. @markbarnes19 Even if it is a choice between PowerPoint, @prezi, @GlogsterEDU, etc. it will ramp up the interest/excitement #txeduchat
  82. A2: YES! Our HW is to read every night - & we share out. No wkshts - discussions or writing instead. Lots of FEEDBACK, too. #txeduchat
  83. @toddallgor They often reach farther than the expectations we set too! #txeduchat
  84. @Glittersnark #txeduchat have many of my old ones just to smell the the mimeograph solution.
  85. A1 - let them build with safety for success and failure. Learning without fear is what is needed. #txeduchat
  86. A2: There's no easy answer. Diff systems work for diff populations and situations. #txeduchat
  87. @jillgrafton @JoyKirr @ryanvhill #txeduchat you provide parents mastery information for tasks/standards ongoing. We used google spreadsheet
  88. You can grow your PLN Personal Learning Network by following others in the chat. #txeduchat
  89. A2: Would love to make a change in grades & grading. As a college prep independent school, I feel stuck unless colleges change. #txeduchat
  90. A2:YES! This is hard 4 parents 2 understand. Must create env. where learning is a spiral & demonstrate knowledge in dif ways #txeduchat
  91. @jillgrafton @ryanvhill Can put FEEDBACK in the online grade book. Maybe have a pilot set of Ss -give choice to Parents? #txeduchat
  92. Twitter vs Paid Professional Development-why it matters to be connected on twitter  http://buff.ly/1r9m76x  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  93. HW is a huge struggle! Especially for my kids with no English @ home and low socio... No help at home = what good did it do? #txeduchat
  94. A2: I want to change my grading...but am fearful that if I'm the only one to do it the pushback might be fierce #txeduchat
  95. @martysnowpaw actually we use the for airplanes and to trace with the 3D doodler #txeduchat
  96. @HalLRoberts Slide away! Always good to see you! Hope you are well, my friend! #txeduchat
  97. A2: HW can be a major stressor for kids and families. We must be aware of situations and have a true purpose for practice at home #txeduchat
  98. A2: Yes. Instead of HW create relevant challenges to connect learning with the real world. #txeduchat
  99. @teachkiwi using blackboard, kid blog, student webpages, google forms. Almost 95% paperless and in yearlong project form/PBL #txeduchat
  100. A2 Yes, but parents have a hard time with the change because they think students should learn how they did #txeduchat
  101. A2: Depends on how the HW/WS are being used, if for true practice in deepening knowledge then why not, if "busy work" then why? #txeduchat
  102. A2: I think worksheets are the first to go for me, and traditional HW comes next. Grading is tougher because of district policies #txeduchat
  103. A2: Using PBL can help eliminate worksheets and homework in the traditional sense as well. #txeduchat
  104. @teachkiwi #txeduchat Yes. They do this at Poughkeepsie Day School... and the kids become life-long learners. My son is one @jonnykanyon
  105. #txeduchat A2 I think as an educational community we need to transform current practices to best serve the 21st century learner.
  106. #txeduchat A2: changes in grading have allowed me to more accurately express direction of learning: Where, what to do, how to get there...
  107. A2: Re: HW, I would love to see way more reading & way fewer worksheets for early grades. Reading sets kids up for success. #txeduchat
  108. .@KoolKatJulian Those Google sprdsheets r key &so much more informative for S & P. I wish I could hear P/S convos abt learning! #txeduchat
  109. @toddallgor This is a huge growth curve and we need to teach the parents how and why! #txeduchat
  110. A2: I will not grade HW after talking w/ @RickWormeli - Now I will only grade standards, not habits. #txeduchat
  111. A2: HW doesn't help increase student achievement. Self regulation and goal setting is much more effective! #txeduchat
  112. A2 if they are exemplary , build relationships, get their Ss to ask Qs, get their Ss to think, they don't need HW, or worksheets #txeduchat
  113. A2: Tried #geniushour for the 1st time this yr. Both Ss & parents loved it! Ss want MORE! #txeduchat So much more fun 2 explore passions!
  114. @ryanvhill #txeduchat I try to give he where ss have to prove their answers. Make them think!
  115. A2: Teachers should implement what's best for their S's; if it's a worksheet hopefully it has meaning for something more creative #txeduchat
  116. A2: Although, for better or worse it seems that Ss "judge" a class by the quantity of work. College too. #txeduchat
  117. A2: Grades are unfortunately seen as the end of learning. It's an outcome. And a zero...what does that do? #txeduchat http://t.co/PxakrGhBs0
    A2: Grades are unfortunately seen as the end of learning. It's an outcome. And a zero...what does that do? #txeduchat pic.twitter.com/PxakrGhBs0
  118. Formative Assessment practices/research says that for feedback to be effective, can't put a grade on it #txeduchat
  119. .@snydesn2 I have come to realize that. We cannot teach 21st Cent Learners w/ a pre-industrial system. Time to upgrade! #txeduchat
  120. @janhodgelibrary I agree. We've got to give them options and the safety/freedom to try and fail and try again in our class. #txeduchat
  121. A2: no worksheets 4sure, not sure all HW should b let go... More PBL will lend itself to more creative grading! #txeduchat
  122. A2: eliminating completely. No. I think some HW is still needed to prepare Ss for their future. #txeduchat
  123. Would Ss value homework more if they got better feedback on it, when it doesn't count towards grade? #txeduchat
  124. This book is GREAT (most of the teaching examples are math but can easily be applied across curriculum)  http://goo.gl/LfJh4t  #txeduchat
  125. @MathEdJax start with upper admin. Show them Mark Barnes book and let them go... They will get it after that read! @markbarnes19 #txeduchat
  126. Q3: In what ways are you helping Ss move to mastery of concepts/targets & driving their own learning? #txeduchat
  127. A2 PBL helps to change most of these traditional areas worksheets, homework, grading #txeduchat
  128. @DK_11 Devil's advocate here - what about student learning what THEY want to learn for HW instead of what WE want them to learn? #txeduchat
  129. @KoolKatJulian The great thing is I have supportive admin...it's parent/student pushback that I am afraid of #txeduchat
  130. @JoyKirr @KoolKatJulian @CoachMBoyd The kids sounded like univ Ss! They were amazing & evident they felt empowered in learning #txeduchat
  131. @sara_hutson Research shows HW when used properly can increase S achievement btw. 8-31 percentile gain. @MarzanoResearch #txeduchat
  132. #txeduchat We need to tear away the traditional fabric and rebuild with 21st century pedagogy.A2
  133. A3: Allowing Ss to work at their own pace. Exhausting but worth it! Looking for ideas on tracking progress. #txeduchat
  134. A3: I love the concept of Ss "grading" their own, Ts giving feedback, and then Ss redoing/revising until Mastery. #txeduchat
  135. A2: Flipped lessons could b answer. Teacher is there to wk through problems. Expectation of wk outside of school is important. #txeduchat
  136. .@bethhill2829 Yes! A grade doesn't tell anything about degree of mastery.What does 70% mean when several stndrds r in 1 task? #txeduchat
  137. A3 PBL helps students take charge of their own learning, even the reluctant ones! Use their interests and walk them through it! #txeduchat
  138. A3: I think using PBL and things like #geniushour can help move Ss toward mastery/autonomy In addition to relationships w/ Ss #txeduchat
  139. @MathEdJax @KoolKatJulian Don't think of it as pushback, think of it as an opportunity to educate parents. #txeduchat
  140. @andreakornowski Most research shows little connection of HW to learning or mastery, especially in lower grades. Kids get that. #txeduchat
  141. A3 helping ss to be incharge of their own learnng.create goals Keeping data binder trackng their progres. always how their doing #txeduchat
  142. @teachkiwi most grading systems are hard enough to use with traditional, how will it work with non traditional #txeduchat
  143. @andreakornowski I totally understand that...I just want the opportunity to educate them. I call home but no one answers alot. #txeduchat
  144. A3: My Dist. focus is on Deconstructing Stds into S friendly learning goals + performance scales so S. know what is expected #txeduchat
  145. @teachkiwi Amen! SBL Environment supports kids in a better way and places emphasis on learning and the process, not a grade. #txeduchat
  146. .@nathan_stevens if it's because the students are driven to keep working in something? Then they own it and P doesn't do it? #txeduchat
  147. A3: Allowing T's to take more risks in implementing new creative ideas in classrooms and then data, data, data #txeduchat
  148. @JoyKirr @DK_11 Good question, perhaps as Ts we can steer to targeted curricular areas vs specific lessons instead #txeduchat
  149. A3: Model learning from mistakes, create a safe space to learn. Mastering concepts is required - LEARNING IS MESSY! #txeduchat
  150. A3: We try to de-emphasize grades, scores, etc., & place more value on the process. We use terms "mastery vs performance." #txeduchat
  151. @DocBates2012 Q3: In what ways are you helping Ss move to mastery of concepts/targets & driving their own learning? #txeduchat
  152. @MathEdJax The trick is finding a way to reach them! Invite them in, online communication? Just trying to give ideas! #txeduchat
  153. A2: Student Learning Outcomes are the driving force in grading proced. Wise Educators do what they can to stretch District Reqs #txeduchat
  154. A3) One important thing we can do is involve our students in their own goal-setting. Menus, conferences. Let them own the goal. #txeduchat
  155. @_nathanbarber @andreakornowski HW is not intended for mastery...it is for practice with new knowledge in moving toward mastery #txeduchat
  156. Don't worry if you missed something in the chat tonight. We archive it every week and post it at  http://txeduchat.com  #txeduchat
  157. @MathEdJax Even if it's conferences...there's got to be a way! Consider it a challenge :) #txeduchat
  158. A3: Demonstrating and expecting failure as part of the learning process. Mistakes open doors for learning. #txeduchat http://t.co/zC6h3eVBAs
    A3: Demonstrating and expecting failure as part of the learning process. Mistakes open doors for learning. #txeduchat pic.twitter.com/zC6h3eVBAs
  159. A2 Ss need to know the outcome and then set goals to achieve them.Make a plan and adjust as the learning progresses #txeduchat
  160. A3: looking at the data, reteaching specific skills to avoid waste of valuable time! #txeduchat
  161. A3 discovery is key. Failure always allowed. Risk taking always rewarded. #txeduchat
  162. Student leadership in action - "Tech-Sperts" - how they lead technology learning  http://buff.ly/1nlHbPy  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  163. A2/3: Goal setting by Ss MUST be a part of the learning process. #txeduchat
  164. @DrChrisLongo #txeduchat You lost me at "Data, Data, Data, unless you were counting smiles.
  165. @JoyKirr I totally agree! Learners are not used to being held to that mastery standard. #txeduchat
  166. #txeduchat A3: Allow students to teach each other, ...and their teachers! That‘s empowing & builds life-long higher order learning skills.
  167. A3 A community where taking risks is encouraged! We learn from being safe, and from getting out!  #txeduchat http://t.co/flzC32LGUi
    A3 A community where taking risks is encouraged! We learn from being safe, and from getting out! #txeduchat pic.twitter.com/flzC32LGUi
  168. #txeduchat A3 Utilization of effective questioning techniques, and empowering students to form effective questions of their own.
  169. @_Wendy22_ What are strategies you use to narrow in on which specific skills to reteach? #txeduchat
  170. @Glittersnark We can allow #geniushour topics related to aerodynamics & make good use of worksheet paper;) #txeduchat
  171. A3 Scaffolding the discovery. Allow Ss to see the patterns that evolve in learning. This is key in history instruction for me. #txeduchat
  172. A3) We also need to teach kids to access their data, @_Wendy22_. Then, testing that now seems punitive becomes diagnostic. #txeduchat
  173. A2 Can't completely eliminate wksts, as 1st needs to learn basics of writing. But reduce wkst and hw too #txeduchat
  174. A3: Praise effort and perseverance. Focusing on the product only will hurt kids' willingness to try.  #txeduchat http://t.co/sUArpNSDzb
    A3: Praise effort and perseverance. Focusing on the product only will hurt kids' willingness to try. #txeduchat pic.twitter.com/sUArpNSDzb
  175. @teachkiwi parents want to be involved at some point and having kids come home without something to do is strange #txeduchat
  176. @snydesn2 Agreed. Effective questioning is so underrated! Powerful means of engagement for our S's. #txeduchat
  177. Wondering how I can promote the growth mindset and content mastery in AP class?? #txeduchat #wischat
  178. @ryanvhill @andreakornowski Believe me, not opposed to HW, but it has to be legit. I'm a HS guy, & even we watch HW carefully. #txeduchat
  179. A3: It helps when the material is of high-interest. When it is not, the challenge (aka, fun) is in MAKING it highly interesting. #txeduchat
  180. @snydesn2 Terrific Point! Effective questioning techniques are truly an art form! #txeduchat
  181. .@andreakornowski ROLE puts teeth to words &ideas educ has watered down.Specific goals & targets in S friendly lang are key. #txeduchat
  182. A3 Well thought out questions are a key to the mastery of concepts. #txeduchat
  183. @andreakornowski Hi, Andrea! Have you read CHOICE WORDS by Peter Johnston, yet? Really helped me w/my convos w/Ss, Ts, and Ps. #txeduchat
  184. For me HW has to have a purpose beyond practice. It has to add to the overall process. #txeduchat
  185. .@poida Collaboration, workshop model instruction and making the classroom global via tech is essential w/ ROLE #txeduchat
  186. @_nathanbarber @andreakornowski Totally agree! Evaluating HW for proper effective use is something that is lacking in most places #txeduchat
  187. @snydesn2 So important Tom, if Ss get this they will soar! It's more about the Qs they can form for sure! #txeduchat
  188. @martysnowpaw Yes. We believe engagement is when kids seek growth rather grades. Not much engagement in chasing GPA over mastery. #txeduchat
  189. @ryanvhill Thank you! I believe the deeper the question the more they are stretched as a learner. #txeduchat
  190. Cook up a mess of student success! Key ingredients for students & teacher to blend = Passion + Enthusiasm + Curiosity + #EdTech! #txeduchat
  191. Q4: How important is feedback using a “Results Only” approach? How can it be best provided? #txeduchat
  192. @FarleyJeffrey I love it, but we need to give them true autonomy to set & own goal, not the illusion of it. #txeduchat @JoyKirr
  193. @nathan_stevens Yes it is. But I'm looking for a way to engage students to motivate them to want to master the content. #txeduchat
  194. Just put the kids to bed, but I’m in time for the 2nd half of #txeduchat! Jennifer. English I. Pasadena TX.
  195. @LizaBrowne2 #txeduchat Why not.. especially when it comes to writing. Let them blog & they will learn more than from any worksheet.
  196. @nathan_stevens Agree! Think we have 2 revisit what the "something" is they're doing @ home. Wksheet so have HW isn't it #txeduchat
  197. @ryanvhill @_nathanbarber @andreakornowski Definitely seems to be a "check box" in many cases & unless feedback is given=useless #txeduchat
  198. Q5: Feedback is the KEY. Say it, write it, listen to it, act on it. #txeduchat
  199. A4 Tough question - especially when one favors process over product. #txeduchat
  200. .@bwhiting58 A3:ROLE is framework; a book that pairs well w/ this called "Learning Targets" talks abt intentional/purposeful ?ing #txeduchat
  201. @ShawnaMiller03 some might say watch videos, I say create something, other might say practice something #txeduchat
  202. A4: Feedback should be ongoing & specific. Must identify what Ss did well and point them in the direction of the learning target #txeduchat
  203. A3 Ts need to guide Ss to find the connections btw interests and curr. Ss want 2 learn. We just need to help them connect dots. #txeduchat
  204. A4: Feedback should allow for goal setting for future growth. #txeduchat
  205. A4: I think feedback is more important in a process not product approach. It is best provided however Ss needs it 1:1, SG, or WG #txeduchat
  206. @teachkiwi agree, it's their learning, and their FUTURE ... and it's global and connected via #EdTech! It's a paradigm SHIFT! #txeduchat
  207. A4: feedback is absolutely necessary for growth with Ss n Ts both! #txeduchat
  208. A4 Feedback is one the most important factor for improving. Then help them identify how to improve their results #txeduchat
  209. #txeduchat A4 Feedback is vital to the success and growth of students. Must develop trust and respect of S's first in order for true value,
  210. @nathan_stevens @markbarnes19 @KoolKatJulian It's much more than that and very prescriptive; no fluff much like a business model #txeduchat
  211. What a GREAT CHAT! We know it is moving fast. Don't worry - we archive it every week and post it on  http://txeduchat.com  #txeduchat
  212. A4: When there's time, I like going over missed problems on tests one-on-one with each of my Ss. #txeduchat
  213. A4: I like having students revisit missed opportunities in learning with one another. #txeduchat
  214. A4 Feedback should always be directional and formative. While failure is accepted, Ss should never feel they've FAILED. #txeduchat
  215. A4: Feedback is key to ROLE approach from listening to @KoolKatJulian, I use similar approach in #geniushour & it works! #txeduchat
  216. A4: Perhaps I need clarification, but "results only" scares me to death. Where is process? mastery? #txeduchat
  217. @EduQuinn It is based on learning targets and moving toward mastery; we work toward the result of learning instead of a grade; #txeduchat
  218. Shawn 6th gr T from PA jumping into #txeduchat ...a bit late
  219. @MrLTeachesU Why not try a re-engagement lesson instead? It keeps the cognitive demand higher. #txeduchat
  220. @andreakornowski @_nathanbarber Check out research on no-grading narrative feedback. SBG often doesn't count HW for points. #txeduchat
  221. AGREED! "@andreakornowski: A4: Feedback should allow for goal setting for future growth. #txeduchat
  222. PBL in my mathematics classroom - inspirational stuff and incredible end products  http://buff.ly/U8R6RU  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  223. @sstorm01 Welcome Shawn, jump right into the discussion, we are chatting about Results Only Learning! #txeduchat
  224. @_nathanbarber I agree. We need to help kids understand that learning never ends. Grades signify the end. #txeduchat
  225. @martysnowpaw I guess I mean paper - they need to learn actual writing of letters, etc early on. Plan to blog too this year #TXEDUCHAT
  226. Important 4 feedback to be given during the learning process.. Not at the end. Once there is a grade attached, learning is done #txeduchat
  227. @MrLTeachesU I'm a big fan of the resources here  http://goo.gl/AP8iYL  it's mathy BUT can be applied across the curriculum #txeduchat
  228. .@mrkempnz ROLE is like PBL on steroids and the results of PBLs done in ROLE classrooms are #TEDtalk quality @KoolKatJulian #txeduchat
  229. @bethhill2829 @_nathanbarber Very true & w/out me setting arbitrary goal Ss usually will reach farther/surpass expectations #txeduchat
  230. A4 it's a tough process to help Ss to see feedback as a challenge not judgement. Esp when their experience is the opposite. #txeduchat
  231. @ryanvhill @_nathanbarber Thanks! We're SBG in our district, just the switch is a challenge for some to do hw. #txeduchat
  232. A4: If we're "results only" & a lab doesn't work right, what message do we send kids? #txeduchat
  233. A4: Specific feedback more important than grade. A "90" = great product, but can be improved. Grades can give false security #txeduchat
  234. saw a tremendous shift on learning as a focus implementing #sbl into the classroom #txeduchat
  235. A4: I try and schedule S conferences, sometimes just talking 1:1 or in sm. groups at lunch. I learn a lot in less formal setting. #txeduchat
  236. @_nathanbarber Message? Try, try again. It's okay to fail - try and the results could change. #txeduchat
  237. A4: If we're "results only" in #entrepreneurship class, and prototype doesn't work or pitch bombs, what message do we send? #txeduchat
  238. @_nathanbarber From my own experience, often "results" may occur on the 2nd try, 3rd, or later! Think we build effort this way #txeduchat
  239. A4: Best feedback often comes in form of questions though. Student will need to develop the ability to critique his/her own work #txeduchat
  240. A4 Ss must have real feedback. It also must be given in a timely manner, otherwise it may lose importance. Love #GAFE for it #txeduchat
  241. Who are 5 people online that make your life “easier” a reflection about connecting  http://buff.ly/1yexYRA  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  242. A4: Nothing beats good formative feedback that leads to more questions of S's #txeduchat
  243. Q5: Do traditional approaches diminish motivation for Ss? How can we change this? #txeduchat
  244. @_nathanbarber results only works in learning - school is the best place to practice "failing" - i don't want my dr failing! #txeduchat
  245. @DK_11 Thanks for discussing - I've learned so much the last few years & have changed much due to conversations. #txeduchat
  246. I definitely need to look into ROLE. This is the first that I have seen of it, and I am intrigued. #txeduchat
  247. @Tom_Kilgore True, but doing it 2nd and 3rd time, are we saying the process of mastery is valued or the results only? #txeduchat
  248. @ShawnaMiller03 & feedback should include peer evaluation as well! Google forms can make that easy for Ss #txeduchat
  249. Are we building learning environments that invite and teach Ss how to respond to feedback? So often Ss "do work" and turn it in. #txeduchat
  250. @teachkiwi Depends on the student. Key is finding what approach works best. Carry a deep toolbox :-) #txeduchat
  251. A5: "Traditional approaches?"- we all need to share different approaches - Ss will need to work w/diff approaches in "real" life. #txeduchat
  252. A5 As a SS teacher, this is one of my biggest challenges - breaking away from the "traditional". #txeduchat
  253. @ShawnaMiller03 It takes a shift in the paradigm! We must change our thinking in order to change our teaching #txeduchat
  254. @teachkiwi Yes. Because they know process, they can keep working, not only on one problem but any. Process is huge to engineers. #txeduchat
  255. @Thrasymachus Absolutely! Oftentimes peer feedback is more valuable and relevant than the teacher's #txeduchat
  256. @_nathanbarber @Tom_Kilgore I think trying different approaches & teaching Ss how to learn will empower them to get the content. #txeduchat
  257. @DK_11 Ah, but you do chose your major which is often an area of interest you want to develop. Not always case in K-12 #txeduchat @JoyKirr
  258. #txeduchat A5 It depends on the dynamic of the learning culture. Traditional pedagogy has value if presented the right way.
  259. @Tom_Kilgore @numbalum89 @Clearviewschool I know Coppell MS East did incredible job educating Ps & Principal was 100% supportive #txeduchat
  260. @teachkiwi #txeduchat If by traditional approaches you mean prescriptive, sage on the stage. I like @shareski term "Meddler In The Middle."
  261. A5: Trad "carrot/stick" approaches to educ diminish motivation. Doing #geniushour changed that for me and made me a #rolebeliever #txeduchat
  262. Remember that you can grow your PLN by following the participants in the chat tonight. We encourage you to follow back too! #txeduchat
  263. @ShawnaMiller03 that requires teachers standing firm & insisting on that environment in the face of easier alternatives #txeduchat
  264. A4 Honestly, how do you go to results only if districts require min. # of grades? I like the concept, but don't know how. #txeduchat
  265. @txeduchat Couldn't agree more! Have to shift it all.. not just give feedback and expect Ss to use differently #txeduchat
  266. #txeduchat A5 The Socratic Method is being used currently as a valueable engagement vehicle. It certainly is not new.
  267. @_nathanbarber May be one in same in some cases but in science as example, failure is learning process too #txeduchat No 2nd run needed
  268. A5 Important to move away from traditional ways and try new and innovative ways of reaching Ss. #txeduchat
  269. @sstorm01 School should be safe place to fail, though. You are right on. #txeduchat
  270. A5: YES! Today's Ss learn in nontraditional ways do 2r tech explosion! Let's teach r Ss they way their young minds r wired! #txeduchat
  271. A5: We owe it to all kids to pull out all the tools we have. We have to be ready to bring it daily! #txeduchat
  272. @_nathanbarber agreed and when it comes to creativity it's necessary - and that is what we need to be teaching our Ss #txeduchat
  273. There must be a T mind shift (growth mindset) to reach our Ss today... #txeduchat
  274. A5 I believe that if you can connect and build relationships with Ss then your approach will be effective. #txeduchat
  275. A5: "We have always done it this way" is a toxic phrase. Poison! #txeduchat
  276. Why to use Skype & GHO with students - Global connections makes learning engaging  http://buff.ly/1n04qEA  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  277. A5) With traditional grading, once my at-risk Ss fall behind, they lose hope and feel defeated. #txeduchat
  278. .@Thrasymachus I observed that it was 100% successful b/c the Principal was behind the Teacher who took the path less traveled #txeduchat
  279. @ShawnaMiller03 I give S chances to give each other feedback before an official evaluation...disarms the fear of assessment #txeduchat
  280. @bethhill2829 That phrase is a sure way to state that one is afraid of trying something new in order to improve outcomes! #txeduchat
  281. #txeduchat A5 Ultimately our students will let us know what methods work best,
  282. A5 The way Ss learn is evolving and how we reach them has to evolve too! #txeduchat
  283. i have my Ss give feedback to each other & then tell them to take home & make it better, then turn it in to me #txeduchat
  284. A5: No excuses! Innovative thinking is a must. We cannot continue doing what we have always done.  #txeduchat http://t.co/2LY7yVoSfg
    A5: No excuses! Innovative thinking is a must. We cannot continue doing what we have always done. #txeduchat pic.twitter.com/2LY7yVoSfg
  285. A5: Yes. Traditional in US is one-size-fits-all, and our world is changing faster than ever. Not a recipe for engagement. #txeduchat
  286. @AndersonGL Hellloooo, Gary!! Nice to see you, neighbor friend! I'm with you - keep changing to fit the needs of Ss! #txeduchat
  287. @Thrasymachus Reminds me of quote-If u opt out of doing what's best 4 kids b/c it's going 2 require more of you, time for u 2 go #txeduchat
  288. .@bethhill2829 A5:it's not even that;w/ ROLE have to let go of anything lending itself to old educ system;the 2 will not coincide #txeduchat
  289. @Thrasymachus @ShawnaMiller03 I do same & give Ss "self assess" column on rubrics to help them see they have met their own goals #txeduchat
  290. A5: Depends on how archaic the "traditional" method may be. If it's lecture/dictation, then motivation has long been diminished. #txeduchat
  291. A5: In math ed I think there are times for traditional, but application should be more innovative - less WS, more project-based. #txeduchat
  292. #txeduchat The only thing constant in life is change. Must be willing to make changes in order to adapt. Key to survival.
  293. Q6: What are advantages you see in using “results only” approaches? Experiences if using already? #txeduchat
  294. @bethhill2829 @Tom_Kilgore Chat is cool, but this would be a great conversation over coffee or dinner. 140 characters is tough. #txeduchat
  295. A5 We need to prepare Ss for 21century skills and traditional ways don't always do that. #txeduchat
  296. A5: yes they do. To change this. The ones that are here in the chat need to become admin so we can implement these strategies. #txeduchat
  297. @KoolKatJulian @markbarnes19 @Tom_Kilgore I know we will be talking more! Trying to respect your summer... But we must talk more! #txeduchat
  298. MT @DK_11 A5: yes. To change this. The ones that are here in the chat need to become admin so we can implement these strategies. #txeduchat
  299. @mrkempnz tedtalks are this years YLP for my Coppell Ss. You will have some from them coming in May! #txeduchat @markbarnes19
  300. @snydesn2 Socratic method is peak of teaching in my opinion...effective leader is needed though one that won't say "I" constantly #txeduchat
  301. A6: No grades,no HW,no wkshts,& no need for discipline;sounds like a T & Ss dream. Focus on mastery not completion! #txeduchat
  302. MT @mrst727 A5: In math I think there r times for trad, but application should be more innovative - less WS, more project-based. #txeduchat
  303. A5) Traditional approaches lead to Ss at all levels - avg, at-risk, g/t - spending more of their effort lrng to game the system. #txeduchat
  304. Latest blog post about Twitter Chats-The ins, outs & my top 8 chats for educators  http://buff.ly/1nlHgD4  #txeduchat #oklaed #sced #iaedchat
  305. A6: Mastery Learning in Higher Ed is not widely accepted. Faculty in Colleges of Education are most likely to adopt ROLE. #txeduchat
  306. @martysnowpaw @shareski thanks for sharing I will check it out... After :-) hosting is hard work! #squirrel #txeduchat
  307. A6: I've used the year-long project without grades - I call it #geniushour . ;) #txeduchat
  308. MT @FarleyJeffrey A5) Trad approaches lead to Ss at all levels - avg, at-risk, g/t - ...more of their effort lrng to game system. #txeduchat
  309. A6: we want our kids to show mastery of the standards and instill in them the desire to achieve their goals. #txeduchat
  310. A5: Must meet Ss where they r, but it is vital to help them see the conn. PBL is great unless they don't connect it to the obj. #txeduchat