- Don't miss "Empirics on the Origins of Preferences: The Case of College Major and Religiosity" https://blog.supplysideliberal.com/post/2017/3/23/miles-kimball-colter-mitchell-arland-thornton-and-linda-young-demarcoempirics-on-the-origins-of-preferences-the-case-of-college-major-and-religiosity …
- @mattyglesias But couldn't they tilt their universities toward the hard sciences (minus climate science) & professions without too much economic damage?
- @mattyglesias It is the social sciences, evolution and climate science that conservatives object to ideologically, not the rest of what universities do.
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias “Minus climate science” once you start minusing you aren’t science-ing.
- @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias I'm not saying there wouldn't be damage—just not obvious damage to *incomes*.
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias That may have been true 10 years ago but in 2017 the hostility to educated “elites” seems detached from issue specificity.
- @Brensweets @mileskimball @mattyglesias You could have a university that just churned out doctors and engineers and it would still a) teach ideas like the scientific method which conflict with conservative dogma, and b) attract a more ethnically diverse crowd causing "economic anxiety".
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias It affects all areas. If they are less attractive for the top talent it’s their loss
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias Biology is big economically and they have more objections (astrophysics, environmental science, engineering for green tech, ...). Adds up.
- @TheLandsman94 @Brensweets @mattyglesias I don't think the scientific method is against conservative dogma, only certain conclusions coming from the scientific method.
- @TheLandsman94 @Brensweets @mattyglesias Even hardcore evangelical universities that believe the world is only 6000 years old can accept scientific method some places.
- @fpgeek @mattyglesias Good point. What you are saying is very interesting. That is exactly where the argument needs to go to be convincing.
- @mileskimball @TheLandsman94 @mattyglesias How do you do “hard science” while disregarding the fundamental underpinnings of biology, geology, chemistry & genetics?
- @mileskimball @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias It's already happening - see Iowa State's new president. We'll have some data to ponder soon.
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias Perhaps worst of all, now that their attitude is so hostile they are biased towards finding even more objections.
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias Except they are _not_ doing it that way. In WI, Walker is just as much going after physics and med school profs as queet studies 1/
- @mileskimball @mattyglesias Ditto NC, where leg came close to putting all profs, all fields, on 4-4 teaching load explictly disparaging their research work 2/2
- @mileskimball @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias So, university education is primarily about income/jobs?
- @fpgeek @mileskimball @mattyglesias Is there any evidence though, that they're going after the funding of biology, engineering, and physics departments?
- @JCannonHubka @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias Some think the other effects of universities are bad: besides helping with jobs, universities are about making students leftist atheists
- @mileskimball @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias Is this your position, or are you reporting the views of the deluded, authoritarian base of the new Republican Party?
- @JCannonHubka @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias I am not far from being an atheist myself: https://blog.supplysideliberal.com/post/27997728961/teleotheism-and-the-purpose-of-life …
- @JCannonHubka @Rose_Marie_Holt @mattyglesias College does have some of these effects. But I think that is good. https://blog.supplysideliberal.com/post/2017/3/23/miles-kimball-colter-mitchell-arland-thornton-and-linda-young-demarcoempirics-on-the-origins-of-preferences-the-case-of-college-major-and-religiosity …
On Religion and Conservative Ideology in Collision with Colleges
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