- For the last six weeks I've been wrestling with "post-truth" politics and the fact-checking press. Here are the posts: http://pressthink.org/2012/08/presspushback/#p43 …
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242296801837846528
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - "The truth? C’mon, this is a political convention" by @GlennKesslerWP http://wapo.st/N74AZ7
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242309754007994370
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - Expect more of this. @jackshafer thinks the fact checking surge is silly because politicians always lie so WTF. http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2012/08/31/looking-for-truth-in-all-the-wrong-places/ …
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242345740876275712
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer I think the fact checker craze lately is bad because they are often wrong or just bend to pressure
http://twitter.com/kmthurman/status/242346309212831746
— (@kmthurman)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - Never said silly. Support factchecking. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer thinks factchecking surge is silly b/c politicians always lie so WTF.
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242346657885347840
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer You clearly think the recent excitement over fact checking is naive and clueless, and silly is a perfectly apt summary of that.
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242347677692608512
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - Do not. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer You think the excitement over factchecking naive and clueless, and silly is a apt summary of that.
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242348122276253697
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jayrosen_nyu You shouldn't expect to be taken seriously as a media critic if you're not wary of the fact checking trend. @jackshafer
http://twitter.com/Heminator/status/242347416404230144
— (@Heminator)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - What access? RT @UnsaltedSinner @jayrosen_nyu No surprises there. He couldn't leave all that delicious access to Glenn Kessler and Ben Smith
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242347392786124802
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer @UnsaltedSinner Access has nothing to do with it.
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242348582571745282
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer Church of Savvy then? Something is certainly making all the cool kids sneer at fact-checking.
http://twitter.com/UnsaltedSinner/status/242351409402626048
— (@UnsaltedSinner)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - .@jayrosen_nyu you're reading into my piece http://reut.rs/T1dFVH stuff that isn't there. Don't think f-c'ing is silly, naive or clueless.
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242349230264553474
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer Readers will decide that, I guess. :-)
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242348912399249409
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer how dare you factcheck @jayrosen_nyu 's accusations about your views on factchecking.
http://twitter.com/sethmnookin/status/242352427045617664
— (@sethmnookin)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer Readers will decide if calling the recent fact checking machinations of journalists "futile" is supportive or derisive.
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242352608419917824
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - Yes, for campaigns. MT @sudeepLA: @jayrosen_nyu You support political factchecking but think it's as effective as factchecking a sermon?
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242352928977997825
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - You' think factchecking effective? MT @jayrosen_nyu: Readers will decide if calling the fact checking "futile" is supportive or derisive.
http://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/242353213901271040
— (@jackshafer)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer "fact check profession": you mean journalism? Used to be a component. What do journalists if not fact checking? @jayrosen_nyu
http://twitter.com/shaunmclean/status/242355634408923136
— (@shaunmclean)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer On the effectiveness of fact checking, I refer you to Brendan Nyhan's argument in CJR. http://m.cjr.org/303546/show/c3cfb12ff72cab01496d5e92ba8fc749/ …?
http://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/242355416758112256
— (@jayrosen_nyu)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu If lie is called out & pol keeps using it, keep calling it out. Christ! They know repetition works; U should too.
http://twitter.com/Chernynkaya/status/242356283028680704
— (@Chernynkaya)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - RT @conor64: On fact-checking: what if it's useful in theory but today's "objective" reporters lack the skill set for it? cc. @jackshafe ...
http://twitter.com/jp_mcginnis/status/242356242889183232
— (@jp_mcginnis)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jgriffaz_ @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu IMHO, journalists free to include their opinion are better at deciding what counts as a fact.
http://twitter.com/conor64/status/242356770943688705
— (@conor64)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @conor64 @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu I don't want journos deciding for me what facts are relevant. Report what happened. I'll do the rest.
http://twitter.com/jgriffaz_/status/242357695355699200
— (@jgriffaz_)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @conor64 @jayrosen_nyu Confused on what skill set it takes to pick up a phone, check a database, etc. Isn't factchecking about asking?
http://twitter.com/mariyastrauss/status/242359622588059648
— (@mariyastrauss)Sun, Sep 02 2012 19:12:06 - @jayrosen_nyu You're all going too far over the line on truthiness. It's become a guerilla sport for journos.
http://twitter.com/RichBronstein/status/242365471003918336
— (@RichBronstein)Sat, Sep 01 2012 10:18:08
