For the last six weeks I've been wrestling with "post-truth" politics and the fact-checking press. Here are the posts: http://pressthink.org/2012/08/presspushback/#p43 …
"The truth? C’mon, this is a political convention" by @GlennKesslerWP http://wapo.st/N74AZ7- Expect more of this. @jackshafer thinks the fact checking surge is silly because politicians always lie so WTF. http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2012/08/31/looking-for-truth-in-all-the-wrong-places/ …
@jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer I think the fact checker craze lately is bad because they are often wrong or just bend to pressure- Never said silly. Support factchecking. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer thinks factchecking surge is silly b/c politicians always lie so WTF.
- @jackshafer You clearly think the recent excitement over fact checking is naive and clueless, and silly is a perfectly apt summary of that.
- Do not. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer You think the excitement over factchecking naive and clueless, and silly is a apt summary of that.
@jayrosen_nyu You shouldn't expect to be taken seriously as a media critic if you're not wary of the fact checking trend. @jackshafer- What access? RT @UnsaltedSinner @jayrosen_nyu No surprises there. He couldn't leave all that delicious access to Glenn Kessler and Ben Smith
- @jackshafer @UnsaltedSinner Access has nothing to do with it.
@jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer Church of Savvy then? Something is certainly making all the cool kids sneer at fact-checking.- .@jayrosen_nyu you're reading into my piece http://reut.rs/T1dFVH stuff that isn't there. Don't think f-c'ing is silly, naive or clueless.
- @jackshafer Readers will decide that, I guess. :-)
@jackshafer how dare you factcheck @jayrosen_nyu 's accusations about your views on factchecking.- @jackshafer Readers will decide if calling the recent fact checking machinations of journalists "futile" is supportive or derisive.
- Yes, for campaigns. MT @sudeepLA: @jayrosen_nyu You support political factchecking but think it's as effective as factchecking a sermon?
- You' think factchecking effective? MT @jayrosen_nyu: Readers will decide if calling the fact checking "futile" is supportive or derisive.
@jackshafer "fact check profession": you mean journalism? Used to be a component. What do journalists if not fact checking? @jayrosen_nyu- @jackshafer On the effectiveness of fact checking, I refer you to Brendan Nyhan's argument in CJR. http://m.cjr.org/303546/show/c3cfb12ff72cab01496d5e92ba8fc749/ …?
@jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu If lie is called out & pol keeps using it, keep calling it out. Christ! They know repetition works; U should too.
@jgriffaz_ @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu IMHO, journalists free to include their opinion are better at deciding what counts as a fact.
@conor64 @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu I don't want journos deciding for me what facts are relevant. Report what happened. I'll do the rest.
@conor64 @jayrosen_nyu Confused on what skill set it takes to pick up a phone, check a database, etc. Isn't factchecking about asking?
@jayrosen_nyu You're all going too far over the line on truthiness. It's become a guerilla sport for journos.
Jay Rosen, Jack Shafer start fact-checking debate on Twitter
Coming off the Republican National Convention, much ink has spilled on the spilled ink over holding politicians accountable for what they say.
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