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  1. gimpyblog
    Rich person on the BBC saying the rich shouldn't pay high taxes because then they will resent the poor
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  2. gimpyblog
    Rich people seldom recognise the role of luck in their personal wealth. Many other people work just as hard as they do for failure.
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  3. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog I think there's already resentment. Especially amongst the HENRY (High Earner, Not Rich Yet) crowd vs non-HENRY non-rich.
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  4. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog When I used to work M&A it was always annoying to hear data entry/clerks bitch about "cushy jobs" when we were doing 60+hr/week.
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  5. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst somebody who works 60 hours a week on minimum wage is not working less hard than somebody who works 60 hours a week for £100k
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  6. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog Not that your point isn't valid, but there's an enormous amount of work involved in climbing to a top spot that ppl disregard.
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  7. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst our PM got a £100k job because a mate in Buckingham Palace phones Carlton and suggested they employ him. That's not hard work.
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  8. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst but the point is that hard work does not justify high wages, unless you are proposing that everybody who works hard earns a lot?
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  9. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog I'm proposing that a lot of the people in HENRY spots have cut their teeth to earn their wages.
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  10. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst so what? They are in the minority of hard workers. Most people work hard without their financial reward.
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  11. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog But most people who work hard don't do work that is just as valuable. There's a world of diff between a clerk and SrVP.
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  12. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog Anyone can do a clerks job. But that SrVP most likely continues to bring in big money, so gets compensated accordingly.
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  13. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst @vonOberst Bankers. Got paid millions in bonuses despite making a loss. Justify that.
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  14. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst and not many people can do my job, it took 8yrs of degree study, then further training. I don't get anywhere near £100k.
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  15. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog Bonuses in finance aren't tied to bottom line. Your contract affects bonus based on project and project outcomes.
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    @gimpyblog Best example is TARP money in US. When Goldman Sachs, etc. paid bonuses after getting bailout. Bailout didn't pay bonuses.
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  17. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog Bonuses came from contracts in effect. there's no "out" on a bonus payout unless it's stated. Institution has to pay out or sued.
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  18. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog If I was still M&A guy at XYZ Bank, brokered $5B buyout, and later bottom line of co was down because of actions by others (1/2)
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  19. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog I'd still be due my bonus on that $5B contract. If Institution tried to withhold because bottom line was net loss, lawsuit filed.
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  20. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog And you're right. Not many people could do most physician/scientists jobs, but from what I've seen in my jump in fields...
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  21. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog The physicians & scientists I've interacted with are really shitty at negotiating contracts. Brilliant people, lousy negotiators.
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  22. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst oh, so your argument is now that high earners are better at negotiating contracts than lower earners, not better at their jobs?
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  23. gimpyblog
    @vonOberst At this point I must ask for some evidence that being able to negotiate an individual contract is a marker for aptitude elsewhere
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  24. vonOberst
    @gimpyblog They're also in a position to negotiate better. To be in that position requires a lot of work.
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