What's in this news release from @caltech is WRONG! http://ow.ly/8iaAQ Cassini, not Caltech, scientists found polar ...(1/2)...

..(2/2)...concentrations of lakes in 2007 & rain-producing storm clouds in eq/mid-latitude regions of Titan (@plutokiller) Let's be fair!

@carolynporco Cassini's OK but can't do everything. We indeed discovered those clouds from telescope on earth http://bit.ly/z95dHM

@plutokiller That those clouds were rain-producing was an ISS result, my Titan folks tell me. Other claims are incorrect: dist of lakes etc.

@carolynporco well, no Cassini missed those clouds entirely. There really is non-Cassini science out there.

@plutokiller Not true. We DID see them, just didn't press release abt them. But that's not issue: issue is rain-production.

@carolynporco @plutokiller found big cloud in 2008, not ISS. We found big cloud+rainfall in 2010.

@volcanopele @plutokiller Jason, sorry u are wrong. We just didn't issue a press release. DelGenio wanted to, ProjSci nixed.

@carolynporco @plutokiller That big cloud in April-May 2008? Are you sure about that? That's what, the low T40s? T41 or T42?

Science in action ... now watching @CarolynPorco and @Plutokiller argue over who discovered what on Titan - because of http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/13484.

@volcanopele @plutokiller But wait...it doesn't matter. The issue is the claim that rain-production was discovered by g-b observers. Wrong!

@carolynporco @plutokiller True, ISS found the first direct evidence of rainfall in 2010. Nothing about the 08 storm in 2011 GRL paper

So the dispute between @carolynporco @volcanopele @plutokiller is whether rain production on Titan was discovered by Cassini or ground-based

@volcanopele @plutokiller Ok, got the scoop. 2008 cloud we (ISS) did not see. But we did see earlier mid-lat/eq cloud (~2004/5) & ..(1/2)..

@volcanopele @plutokiller ..(2/2)...our news release on it was nixed. Nonetheless, issue is abt rain product'n which ISS was first to show

@carolynporco @plutokiller you are both fantastic to have this discourse where your followers can share: kudos! #ScienceForAll

@carolynporco seems silly to argue about who 1st detected rain on titan when the honest answer is no one ever has

@plutokiller @carolynporco Well there was that storm in 2010 that resulted in significant equatorial areas to be covered in rain runoff...

@carolynporco exactly. I find our earlier evidence compelling. Do you not?

@volcanopele or, to be accutate, large areas of albedo change. I, too, think it was rain. But its not the same as seeing rain.

@plutokiller Well, at that point it is splitting hairs. Sure, we don't have a picture of rain drops in the air, but this is pretty close.

@volcanopele my point exactly. I would argue that our earlier observations of rapid cloud dissipation meant the same thing.

Following the back+forth with me+@carolynporco? You might think it matters. It doesn't. What matters is how cool Titan is = alot.