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Academic Science: What needs to change?

I was lucky enough to just catch the end of a great Twitter convo on academic science last night. I figured this could really use some archiving, and decided to storify! Due to the way I had to hunt these down, some MIGHT be out of order. If you know of any I missed, please let me know!

  1. Where it all began...
  2. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    Trying to decide if worth posting grant rant abt the state of American science funding when I have such a backlog of reg sci posts to write
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 19:29:29
  3.  I have rearranged some things trying to make sense of the many overlapping convos. So times aren't always linear.
  4. drugmonkeyblog
    Drug Monkey@drugmonkeyblog
    @KateClancy naah, now who would do such a thing. Rant about grants, pshaw.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:03:20
  5. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    @drugmonkeyblog Yes, definitely foreign to you ;)
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:03:38
  6. SnowHydro
    Sarah Boon@SnowHydro
    @KateClancy @CliffordTheHutt Here's to not sounding like an asshole. Tough with that topic... :)
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:01:30
  7. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    @SnowHydro @CliffordTheHutt Agreed! At least in this case I'm angry on the behalf of others.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:02:18
  8. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    it's time to break up the NIH
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:19:56
  9. drugmonkeyblog
    Drug Monkey@drugmonkeyblog
    To Arms! TO ARM..... wait, whut now? RT @mbeisen: it's time to break up the NIH
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:21:36
  10. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @drugmonkeyblog more info coming :-)
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:21:56
  11. eperlste
    Ethan Perlstein@eperlste
    @mbeisen or make it more like DARPA in that its mission to combine basic and applied research is fulfilled.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:30:23
  12. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @drugmonkeyblog but seriously - it's become a major obstacle to the way science should work
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:22:21
  13. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    .@drugmonkeyblog we need to separate intramural and extramural funding, and reserve a special pool for basic research
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:23:13
  14. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    @mbeisen @drugmonkeyblog Which just happens to be the topic of my grant rant. Was my phone call to a colleague just bugged? ;)
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:23:48
  15. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @KateClancy i'm going to write something this week about it
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:24:02
  16. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @KateClancy wanna write something with me on this?
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:24:57
  17. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    @mbeisen Yes please. My fury knows no bounds. I am very, very close to quitting my job and giving up on American academic science, period.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:23:01
  18. KateClancy
    Kate Clancy@KateClancy
    @mbeisen Yes, definitely. Been working on a draft tonight, I could send it to you, or we could do something in tandem.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:29:13
  19. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @KateClancy i'm going to do mine tomorrow - let's rant in parallel and see how we converge ;-)
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:30:12
  20. I really hope this happens!!! Would love to see these posts.
  21. Mammals_Suck
    Mammals Suck@Mammals_Suck
    @KateClancy @mbeisen I have also almost entirely lost faith with the endeavor.
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:26:29
  22. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @Mammals_Suck @KateClancy idiocy of NIH is going to kill a generation of scientists; science is not a stable career anymore
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:27:28
  23. drugmonkeyblog
    Drug Monkey@drugmonkeyblog
    Au contraire! We need more intramural, take these rapacious deanlets out of the picture. @mbeisen
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:27:11
  24. drugmonkeyblog
    Drug Monkey@drugmonkeyblog
    I wasn't really kidding about a series of Janelia type outfits across the country. @mbeisen
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:29:22
  25. drugmonkeyblog
    Drug Monkey@drugmonkeyblog
    My only sticking point is that the primate centers are hugely inefficient clusterfucks. Not sure how to overcome limitations. @mbeisen
    Sat, Jan 26 2013 20:30:26

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