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<rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Francine McKenna · Storify]]></title><description><![CDATA[Using tools instead of tools using me. Writer/speaker/litigation consultant. Encantada de todo de America Latina. Accounting Watchdog@Forbes, 2010 Loeb Finalist]]></description><link>http://storify.com/retheauditors</link><generator>NodeJS RSS Module</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 02:13:07 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="http://storify.com/rss/retheauditors" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><item><title><![CDATA[Topics For Dr. Shaub's Accounting & Ethics Class Texas A&M]]></title><description><![CDATA[<html><body><div id="storify-minimal" style="font-family: Museo Sans,Helvetica Neue,sans-serif; color: #333;"><p id="description" style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;"></p><p id="meta" style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0; color: #999; padding-bottom: 20px; border-bottom: 1px dashed #ddd; margin-bottom: 20px;">Storified by <a href="http://storify.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<span>Fri, Apr 05 2013 06:33:35</span></p><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Looking forward to welcoming @retheauditors to the classroom next Tuesday and Wednesday. Also a great chance for faculty/student meetings.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/mikeshaub" style="color: #429ec6;">Mike Shaub</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/mikeshaub/status/319899755960471553" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 12:50:19</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">If only all my exes lived in Texas.  I'll have to settle for tacos.  @TAMU #Aggies #OnMyWay</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/319538450376323072" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 12:54:37</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Couples who drink about the same amount of alcohol less likely to divorce.  latimes.com/health/booster…</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/carolynryan" style="color: #429ec6;">carolynryan</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/carolynryan/status/319649914504216576" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 20:17:33</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors Another Aggie here. Any chance that Brown's hearings will be anything more than bad press for firms/banks over this debacle?</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/eablackman13" style="color: #429ec6;">Eric Blackman</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/eablackman13/status/319831459978412034" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 08:18:56</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors I'm a student in Dr. Shaub's class. Can't wait to hear from you! What do you think audit prof. looks like 10 years from now?</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/Jamesw1212" style="color: #429ec6;">James Warren</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/Jamesw1212/status/319247946451386368" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Apr 02 2013 17:40:16</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@ElyseMcclintock @mikeshaub Don't wait in life for "it" to get better.  Make it better now. Certainly don't put up with it if it gets worse.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/319853681644273664" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 09:47:14</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@amy_palm Conditioned sounds like a Stepford wife.  We'll have to rattle your routers when I'm there.  :)</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/319864970374418434" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 10:32:06</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors I just answered this from your earlier tweet haha! but I'm glad the Eminem one was true!</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/shelbyflemingo" style="color: #429ec6;">Shelby Fleming</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/shelbyflemingo/status/319263607550533632" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Apr 02 2013 18:42:30</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors Excited to hear you speak at A&amp;M! Interested in your opinion on the pressure there's in Big 4 when allocating time to clients</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/MegMaedgen" style="color: #429ec6;">Meg Maedgen</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/MegMaedgen/status/319288234184163328" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Apr 02 2013 20:20:21</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors TAMU Student here, would love to hear about any solutions to the current compensation model in the Big 4 in your presentation</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_riordan" style="color: #429ec6;">Patrick Riordan </a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/patrick_riordan/status/319487224074874880" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 09:31:04</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@patrick_riordan Well there's two big problems with the compensation model in Big Four: collusion in the beginning and forced ranking later.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/319489147154870272" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 09:38:43</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors  Do you see a "checklist" mentality forming in big firms bc of their size? (i.e. audit programs followed with less deviation)</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/SarahB1832" style="color: #429ec6;">Sarah Bradley</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/SarahB1832/status/319530597083119616" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 12:23:25</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors Other, perhaps better, full time opportunities upon graduation with a masters in accounting. Conditioned to love Big 4..</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/amy_palm" style="color: #429ec6;">Amy Palmerton</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/amy_palm/status/319859872210485248" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 10:11:50</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors I am currently in @mikeshaub ethics class @TAMU. I am looking forward to hearing more about your perspective of the Big 4!</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/KateHalfmann" style="color: #429ec6;">Kate Halfmann</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/KateHalfmann/status/320000838900789248" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 19:31:59</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors Hi I'm from @TAMU as well!.  I was wondering if you could speak about how an accounting degree can affect your career in busn</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/CTLILC" style="color: #429ec6;">Catherine Turano</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/CTLILC/status/319595072050040832" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 16:39:37</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors can't wait to hear about the "who's gonna steal your boyfriend or girlfriend rule" for the public accounting firms. #ohboy</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/Rachelduran13" style="color: #429ec6;">Rachel Duran</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/Rachelduran13/status/319844127179149312" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Apr 04 2013 09:09:16</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors I am with @mikeshaub ethics class @TAMU and I wanted to know your view on hierarchy within the big four</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/ElyseMcclintock" style="color: #429ec6;">Elyse MCClintock</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/ElyseMcclintock/status/319535801132257280" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 12:44:06</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors hi Francine! Question: Do you think strict observance of the established rules is likely to prevent a good outcome? @tamu</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/lauraalaniz" style="color: #429ec6;">Laura Alaniz</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/lauraalaniz/status/319523047990251521" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 11:53:25</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors both general and accounting rules. It's a weird question that I often go back and forth on.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/lauraalaniz" style="color: #429ec6;">Laura Alaniz</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/lauraalaniz/status/319528052776370179" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Apr 03 2013 12:13:18</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors Interesting article --questioning the ethics of our judicial system. Looking forward to your visit to Dr. Shaub's class!</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/KatieDinn13" style="color: #429ec6;">Katie Dinn</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/KatieDinn13/status/318882216975400960" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Mon, Apr 01 2013 17:26:59</a></div></blockquote><div class="footer"><img src="http://storify.com/public/img/logo.blue.small.png" alt="Powered by Storify" /></div></div><img src="http://stats.storify.com/record/view.gif?sid=515ecb4a1ad08c7511003b26&amp;referer=%2F%2Fstorify.com%2Frss%2Fretheauditors" width="1" height="1" /></body></html>]]></description><link>http://storify.com/retheauditors/topics-for-dr-shaub-s-accounting-and-ethics-class</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://storify.com/retheauditors/topics-for-dr-shaub-s-accounting-and-ethics-class</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine McKenna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:33:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[PCAOB Solicits Input On Auditor Independence and Auditor Rotation Concept Release - Day 2]]></title><description><![CDATA[<html><body><div id="storify-minimal" style="font-family: Museo Sans,Helvetica Neue,sans-serif; color: #333;"><p id="description" style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">For two days this week the audit regulator, the PCAOB, solicited feedback from investors, audit committee members, professional groups like the IIA, former regulators, academics and business leaders on improving auditor independence, professional skepticism, and audit quality.</p><p id="meta" style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0; color: #999; padding-bottom: 20px; border-bottom: 1px dashed #ddd; margin-bottom: 20px;">Storified by <a href="http://storify.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<span>Fri, Mar 23 2012 05:45:15</span></p><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">For more information about this forum go <a target="_blank" href="http://pcaobus.org/Rules/Rulemaking/Pages/Docket037.aspx" style="color: #429ec6;">here</a>.</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Back for second day of #PCAOB hearings on auditor independence and auditor rotation.  First panel is focused on audit committee POV.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182811682618347521" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 05:51:16</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Day 2 of #PCAOB confab on auditor rotation; @retheauditors, @WAI_News and @RFChambers are live tweeting</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/TreasuryandRisk" style="color: #429ec6;">Treasury &amp; Risk Mag</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/TreasuryandRisk/status/182828194620121088" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:56:53</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @echasan: Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker backs #auditor rotation at #PCAOB panel. Summary of am panels @CFOJournal http://on.wsj.com/GIxKtV</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182806833344430080" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 05:32:00</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">122 years with same auditor is irresponsible. P&amp;G uses all the other big four for consulting so no room to maneuver. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182812807006404609" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 05:55:44</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@normanmarks I'm professionally skeptical any Audit Comm can sustain scrutiny of a 122 year audit relationship effectively. #Embedded #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182827767375724544" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:55:11</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">At least PNC Financial made a change to PwC after Ernst &amp; Young was sued by their shareholders. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182815835335819264" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:07:46</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Chellgren trying to dodge question form PVAOB's Bauman about why they rotated out EY and deleted PwC.  Wasn't for voluntary reasons.  #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182831293250289665" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:09:11</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">What I wrote about long relationship between PwC and Dell. SEC never clawed back bonuses from Dell execs either. http://retheauditors.com/2007/08/pwc-why-are-you-hanging-on-to-dell/ #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182818456608063490" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:18:11</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Does agree auditor should be changed win there is a financial statement fraud.  @THEIIA #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182883762214936576" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 10:37:41</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors  #PCAOB Shareholders have right to sue, and also to vote #auditors and/or directors out.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/normanmarks" style="color: #429ec6;">Norman Marks</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/normanmarks/status/182829388289671169" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:01:37</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Why isn't SEC forcing auditors to step down when their own client, shareholders, sues the firm?  Litigation impairs independence. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182822127840395266" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:32:46</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">PwC was sued by another client repeatedly and still audits them. AIG. Or maybe its US government that's keeping them close.  #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182821461000585217" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:30:07</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@normanmarks Many more than the small percentage you cite and also some repeat defendants like PwC and AIG. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182828953906577409" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:59:54</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@retheauditors  #PCAOB An audit committee with quality can provide effective oversight for millennia. Threat of dismissal is powerful</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/normanmarks" style="color: #429ec6;">Norman Marks</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/normanmarks/status/182828787099119616" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:59:14</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @rfchambers: RT @BobTannous @brocromanek: PCAOB's Auditor Rotation Roundtable: Materials Available http://bit.ly/d2nmtP</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182829928516026368" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:03:46</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Nicolaisen: Good auditors are skeptics.  Good auditors are critics. Good auditors are a pain. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182850976833732609" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 08:27:24</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Pozen: Every Audit Committee is in hand to hand combat with their auditor over fees. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182846154650812416" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 08:08:15</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Former SEC Chairman Rod Hills worried about impact on poor Big Four auditors of having to resell services, switch engagement teams. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182815320388542464" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 06:05:43</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Rod Hills says it's the auditors job to tell Audit Committees what accounting alternatives are.  Completely wrong!  #NOGAAPAdvice  #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182833335993778176" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:17:18</a></div></blockquote><div class="footer"><img src="http://storify.com/public/img/logo.blue.small.png" alt="Powered by Storify" /></div></div><img src="http://stats.storify.com/record/view.gif?sid=4f6c6c20796d2eeb3b668ba3&amp;referer=%2F%2Fstorify.com%2Frss%2Fretheauditors" width="1" height="1" /></body></html>]]></description><link>http://storify.com/retheauditors/pcaob-solicits-input-on-auditor-independence-and-a</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://storify.com/retheauditors/pcaob-solicits-input-on-auditor-independence-and-a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine McKenna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:45:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[PCAOB Solicits Feedback On Auditor Independence]]></title><description><![CDATA[<html><body><div id="storify-minimal" style="font-family: Museo Sans,Helvetica Neue,sans-serif; color: #333;"><p id="description" style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">For two days this week the audit regulator, the PCAOB, solicited feedback from investors, audit committee members, professional groups like the IIA, former regulators, academics and business leaders on improving auditor independence, professional skepticism, and audit quality.</p><p id="meta" style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0; color: #999; padding-bottom: 20px; border-bottom: 1px dashed #ddd; margin-bottom: 20px;">Storified by <a href="http://storify.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<span>Fri, Mar 23 2012 05:25:08</span></p><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">For more information about this forum go <a target="_blank" href="http://pcaobus.org/Rules/Rulemaking/Pages/Docket037.aspx" style="color: #429ec6;">here.</a></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @echasan: Former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker backs #auditor rotation at #PCAOB panel. Summary of am panels @CFOJournal http://on.wsj.com/GIxKtV</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182806833344430080" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Mar 22 2012 05:32:00</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Auditors are resigned to fact plain audit fees will continue to go down and be commoditized.  Eyes on prize: Consulting! #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182562087933976577" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 13:19:28</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Here's the SEC final rule on auditor independence.  Pretty clear to me. http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/33-7919.htm #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182551604241760256" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 12:37:48</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Jenkins of Virginia Poly seems to think there's no clear definition of auditor independence.  Obvs has not heard of Sec 201 of SOX. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182551252926861312" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 12:36:24</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @Sandrine_OnAir: To know all about #PCAOB instructive debates on audit market, follow @WAI_News  @going_concern  @retheauditors @AccountingToday #in</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/MazarsGroup" style="color: #429ec6;">Mazars Group</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/MazarsGroup/status/182543534799335424" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 12:05:44</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Harvard's Bazerman  compliments Gretchen Morgenson and says her book @RecklessEndangerment talks about the "incentive to not notice." #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182535754596106240" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 11:34:49</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Harvard's Bazerman says it's about removing incentives for auditor to try to please client and have $$ based on that. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182534215089405952" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 11:28:42</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Harvard's Bazerman:  [When assuming audits can be corrupted] we are accusing auditors of being human.  #IWonderSometimes #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182532167199494147" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 11:20:34</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">I heard from PCAOB research fellow that there are many, many academic studies of the impact of the Arthur Andersen transition, both from the perspective of the retention of AA team in new auditor firm as well as the costs. I will publish a syllabus at a later date.</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Biggs asks if any academic has done research on cost of all the Arthur Andersen transitions.  Would be good to know. Academics????? #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182524740995530752" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:51:04</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">What I wrote about Arthur Levitt, PwC, GS and AIG. http://retheauditors.com/2009/08/22/damn-the-conflicts-arthur-levitt-still-wont-shut-up/ #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182525912179425281" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:55:43</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Arthur Levitt: Railing against JOBS Act.  Repealing SOX. IPO envy rampant. When investor protections weakened, transparency weakened. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182518234459799552" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:25:12</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@going_concern Up front so I can see the whites of their eyes.  #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182522361185173504" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:41:36</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">follow @retheauditors and #PCAOB for some interesting views on auditors today in washington</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/TonyTassell" style="color: #429ec6;">Tony Tassell</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/TonyTassell/status/182518624383283201" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:26:45</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Bogle:  Not enough independence of auditors.  Hard to change auditors. But we have to change something. Have to do it now. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182517524624187392" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:22:23</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Jack Bogle/Vanguard says he's tired of hearing Big Four CEOs say wld never do anything wrong because of reputation risk. Calling BS. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182515960413040640" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:16:10</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Many, incl TIAA-Cref's Biggs talk abut huge PV of auditor fees over long tenure.  Impediment to independence. Judges don't see that. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182513404949438466" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 10:06:01</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Just met Bob Moritz and PwC crew. I introduce myself to the Chairman and he says, "I know who you are." Must have recog Louboutins. #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182500725258059776" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 09:15:38</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Ferguson asks Wells of Goodyear is lack of firms to choose from a problem with lack of good firms or auditors doing non-audit? #PCAOB</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/182492795284631554" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Mar 21 2012 08:44:07</a></div></blockquote><div class="footer"><img src="http://storify.com/public/img/logo.blue.small.png" alt="Powered by Storify" /></div></div><img src="http://stats.storify.com/record/view.gif?sid=4f6b7424ea442bdf0f4eb496&amp;referer=%2F%2Fstorify.com%2Frss%2Fretheauditors" width="1" height="1" /></body></html>]]></description><link>http://storify.com/retheauditors/pcaob-solicits-feedback-on-auditor-independence</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://storify.com/retheauditors/pcaob-solicits-feedback-on-auditor-independence</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine McKenna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:25:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Plot Thickens: The House Financial Services Committee MF Global Hearing ]]></title><description><![CDATA[<html><body><div id="storify-minimal" style="font-family: Museo Sans,Helvetica Neue,sans-serif; color: #333;"><p id="description" style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">On Thursday, December 15, lawmakers held the third in a series of hearings on the collapse of MF Global. I advised the members of the House Financial Services Committee - in advance in a column in American Banker  - to cut to the chase with their questions.</p><p id="meta" style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0; color: #999; padding-bottom: 20px; border-bottom: 1px dashed #ddd; margin-bottom: 20px;">Storified by <a href="http://storify.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<span>Sat, Dec 17 2011 07:03:00</span></p><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @retheauditors: CME Directors Sue Corzine, Ex-MF Executives http://on.wsj.com/svFN1C via @WSJ</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/moorehn" style="color: #429ec6;">Heidi N. Moore</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/moorehn/status/147483853139886080" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 17:11:05</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">CME Group's Duffy said&nbsp;in the hearing&nbsp;that his organization was told to stop their internal investigation and was precluded from supporting the regulators' investigations. This surprised&nbsp;and confused lawmakers.&nbsp;I guess this lawsuit is why. &nbsp;CME Group directors have a conflict as fiduciaries of a public company and directors of an exchange that acts as a designated self regulating organization for FCMs like MF Global. &nbsp;How to separate the interests of CME Group the public company, its loss of a major customer in MF Global, its regulatory responsibility, and the personal financial interests of some of its officers and directors? &nbsp;Mamma mia!</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Ratings agencies and auditor PwC in Jan MT @SheilaD_TV: Neugebauer said add'l hearings are required. "...take rest of the day off" #mfglobal</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147544043197435905" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 21:10:15</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">RT @retheauditors: Commingling at Barclays http://bit.ly/rJxgfb MT @spbaines: PwC (#MFGlobal auditor) investigated by UK re Barclays audit.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/AmerBanker" style="color: #429ec6;">American Banker</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/AmerBanker/status/147655544017137664" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Fri, Dec 16 2011 04:33:19</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">This is damning evidence of the disdain the banks and auditor PwC have&nbsp;for the concept of segregation of customer funds. &nbsp;PwC was cited recently for the same offense at JP Morgan UK. &nbsp;JP Morgan is MF Global's chief banker and major creditor.&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Questions also for Koback about conflicts between trustee's law firm HHR and PwC and JPM.  #MFGlobal</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147429323358478337" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 13:34:24</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">My understanting is that there will be another hearing in January with the ratings agencies and PwC giving testimony.</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@lisadont Thx. I'm glad you liked my article: Why the Congressional Ag committees have oversight of CFTC and #MFGlobal: http://bit.ly/vKwcCC</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/shorecap" style="color: #429ec6;">Mark Shore</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/shorecap/status/147423979181846528" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Fri, Dec 16 2011 14:12:18</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@rizzoSL Unfortunately window-dressing is not the issue here. Repo-to-maturity transactions off-balance sheet disclosed, complied with GAAP.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147420895252725761" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 13:00:55</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">Some pundits try to ply the same schtick for&nbsp;every new fraud or scandal. One size does not fit all. &nbsp;Look at new facts fresh and, in this case, follow the money.</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Righto RT @graemehein @3mendous @retheauditors Board reporting depends on not having joint Chair/CEO, otherwise doesn't help with Corz types</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147420260893605891" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 12:58:23</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">"Our systems were not as strong as we wanted them to be." Oh really? Why no material weaknesses in internal controls then? #MFGlobal #SOx</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147419266562531328" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 12:54:26</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">My question was asked verbatim by Rep. Capuano:&nbsp;<em>Did MF Global have sufficient internal controls over financial reporting given the breach of segregated funds that occurred subsequent to the Sarbanes-Oxley certifications signed for the fiscal year ended March 31 and the quarters ended June 30 and Sept. 30?</em><em>Were you and MF Global CFO Steenkamp being truthful with your auditor, PricewaterhouseCoopers, when you signed the Sarbanes-Oxley certifications and assured investors and regulators of the adequacy of internal controls over financial reporting?</em></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@KoppTheFool And the actual auditors, PwC, are so far missing in action. #MFGlobal</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147412037088190465" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 12:25:43</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">#MFGlobal had a history of compliance failure, receiving $87million in fines from the SEC in the last 4 years alone.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/FinancialCmte" style="color: #429ec6;">Financial Services</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/FinancialCmte/status/147410685817659392" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Fri, Dec 16 2011 14:12:18</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">I posed questions for all of those testifying and one who did not - PricewaterhouseCoopers, MF Global's auditor.</div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">+1 RT @trhediger: @retheauditors I hope the best questions will come from @RepJohnCampbell, part of Congressional CPA Caucus. @financialcmte</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147130130056224768" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Wed, Dec 14 2011 17:45:31</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">I did not know there was such a thing as the Congressional CPA Caucus. &nbsp;Must look into that. &nbsp;I wonder what their parties are like?<br /><div><br /></div><div>Many are&nbsp;confusing&nbsp;&nbsp;terms "auditor" and "regulator" in this case. &nbsp;</div></div><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">A securities lawyer from Chicago, Andrew Stoltmann, was on Bloomberg in the morning and kept calling the CME Group the "auditor" of MF Global. &nbsp;This kind of misinformation only serves to let PwC, the real statutory auditor, off the hook and to confuse the true role and responsibilities of the CME Group. &nbsp;<div><br /></div><div>MF Global is a publicly traded company. They are responsible to the SEC in that regard and must file audited financial statements each quarter and year end.&nbsp;</div></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@Stoltmann1971 CME is not #MFGlobal auditor.  PwC is and no one has questioned that firm. CMEGroup is like FINRA: a DSRO.  That is all.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/147358827015180288" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Thu, Dec 15 2011 08:54:16</a></div></blockquote><div class="footer"><img src="http://storify.com/public/img/logo.blue.small.png" alt="Powered by Storify" /></div></div><img src="http://stats.storify.com/record/view.gif?sid=4eeb562e894929d32014fa0b&amp;referer=%2F%2Fstorify.com%2Frss%2Fretheauditors" width="1" height="1" /></body></html>]]></description><link>http://storify.com/retheauditors/the-plot-thickens-the-house-financial-services-com</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://storify.com/retheauditors/the-plot-thickens-the-house-financial-services-com</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Francine McKenna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:03:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Auditor Rotation Proposal Just More Spin]]></title><description><![CDATA[<html><body><div id="storify-minimal" style="font-family: Museo Sans,Helvetica Neue,sans-serif; color: #333;"><p id="description" style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; color: #666; margin-bottom: 5px;">The U.S. audit regulator, the PCAOB, met yesterday in an open meeting to approve a concept release for study, again, of the potential advantages and disadvantages of mandatory audit firm rotation to improve audit integrity, auditor independence, and the quality of audit opinions.  </p><p id="meta" style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0; color: #999; padding-bottom: 20px; border-bottom: 1px dashed #ddd; margin-bottom: 20px;">Storified by <a href="http://storify.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">Francine McKenna</a> · 
<span>Thu, Oct 27 2011 00:27:11</span></p><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Today's discussion of inherent conflict in current auditor payment model, impact on independence no mention it's same as ratings agencies.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103468624001511425" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:10:16</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">It's very sad that ten years after Sarbanes-Oxley, audit regulator has to address how to change mindset of auditors to investors first. :(</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103476247262277632" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:40:34</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">Throughout the period of review, examination, and introspection on the causes and solutions to the latest financial crisis, the auditors have stayed well above the fray. They've never been called to testify before Congress like they were in the<a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/11/28/big-4-bombshell-we-didnt-fail-banks-because-they-were-getting-a-bailout/" style="color: #429ec6;"> U.K. at the House of Lords</a>.&nbsp;<div><br /></div><div>They've only recently started to show up as defendants in subprime, credit crisis, and financial crisis related lawsuits, although some key cases were <a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/08/18/settling-for-silence-kpmg-closes-the-books-on-new-century-and-countrywide/" style="color: #429ec6;">settled early</a> in the process. They <a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/05/31/the-auditors-and-financial-regulatory-reform-that-dog-dont-hunt/" style="color: #429ec6;">escaped any mention</a> in the Dodd-Frank reform bill. And they've continued to benefit from the chaos, and extra work by<a href="http://retheauditors.com/2008/10/22/treasury-appoints-pwc-and-ey-the-wolves-are-in-the-henhouse/" style="color: #429ec6;"> grabbing lucrative contracts with government</a> and staying on board as auditors of some of the most troubled companies such as AIG, Bank of America, Citgroup, and GM.<div><br /></div><div>Compared to the ratings agencies, the auditors have gotten away with murder.</div><div><br /></div><div>The PCAOB, the auditing regulator that emerged from the last scandal, Enron, and its legislation, Sarbanes-Oxley, is starting to rattle their cage however.</div><div><br /></div><div>The regulator is now looking at the inspection record the auditors have accumulated since Sarbanes-Oxley and it's littered with audit failure.</div><div><br /></div><div><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">In congressional testimony earlier this&nbsp;year, the Board's Chairman explained that:</p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">"Although the PCAOB's 2010 inspection reporting cycle is not yet&nbsp;complete, so far PCAOB inspectors have continued to identify&nbsp;significant deficiencies related to the valuation of complex financial&nbsp;instruments, inappropriate use of substantive analytical procedures,&nbsp;reliance on entity level controls without adequate evaluation of&nbsp;whether those processes actually function as effective controls, and&nbsp;several other issues. PCAOB inspectors have also identified more&nbsp;issues than in prior years. In any event, the Board is troubled by the&nbsp;volume of significant deficiencies, especially in areas identified in&nbsp;prior inspections.&nbsp;The PCAOB is working on several initiatives to&nbsp;drive improvements in audit quality."<br /></p></div></div></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">PCAOB implies they have a firm definition for "audit failure."  I'd like to see  that since it's a hotly disputed term.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103471878198394880" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:23:12</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;">The PCAOB defines "audit failure" as, "a failure to obtain reasonable assurance about whether the financial&nbsp;statements are free of material misstatement. That does not mean that the&nbsp;financial statements are, in fact, materially misstated. Rather, it means that the&nbsp;inspection staff has determined that, because of an identified error or omission,&nbsp;the firm failed to fulfill its fundamental responsibility in the audit -- to obtain&nbsp;reasonable assurance about whether the financial statements are free of material&nbsp;misstatement.&nbsp;<div><br /></div><div>In other words, investors were relying on an opinion on the&nbsp;financial statements that, when issued, was not supported by sufficient&nbsp;appropriate evidence."<p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"><br /></p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">By that definition, they've documented a whole lot of failure over the last several years.</p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"><br /></p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">The PCAOB thinks it's time to look at audit firm rotation &nbsp;- audit partner rotation was implemented under Sarbanes-Oxley in 2002 as a compromise - as a way to improve auditor independence. Some of the problems the regulator sees with audits are a lack of auditor professional skepticism and an inappropriate focus on building and maintaining the client relationship with the company management rather than on performing a public duty for shareholders.</p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"><br /></p><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">So the PCAOB has asked for public comment and plans to study the issue further.</p></div></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Has anyone ever done a study on the cost/benefit of so many studies to evaluate the cost/benefit of doing something for a change? #NotJoking</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103470150103220224" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:16:20</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">PCAOB Board member Harris mentions my suggestion for a registry of audit partners on public co audits including sanctions, litigation.  Yay</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103465671727386624" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 06:58:33</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Marketing material from an auditor that talk about "partnership" with client tell us what they're willing to DO to keep a client.  #WakeUp</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103478954396106752" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:51:19</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;"><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">I'm against the auditor rotation proposal but not for the same reasons the audit firms are. They cite cost, disruption to clients, and even higher vulnerability to fraud.</p><div><br /></div><div>I'm against an auditor rotation proposal because it's just more of the same old, same old.&nbsp;</div><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"></p></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">But audit firm rotation will not help independence since at the highest level, all four large audit firms beholden to multinationationals</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103460156045668352" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 06:36:38</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@dandhicks Speech to the Amer Acctg Assoc Public Interest section touching on independence and professional skepticism http://bit.ly/qqi12X</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103502132589764609" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 09:23:26</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;"><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"></p><div>And audit firm rotation does not resolve the fundamental, "inherent conflict" that was mentioned so often during the PCAOB's open meeting: &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><i>The auditors are paid directly by the companies they pass judgment on.</i></div><div><br /></div><div>That's the same conflict ratings agencies have. The ratings agencies were vilified as crisis culprits for allowing worthless mortgage securities to spread throughout the banking system. They have also been stripped recently of their exclusive, monopolistic government franchise to produce required ratings.</div><div><br /></div><div>That's not to say that long, close auditor-company relationships don't obviously result in close, deep personal relationships, potential bias, loss of independence and objectivity, and even possibly collusion and complicity in achieving common goals - to keep the companies alive.</div><div><br /></div><div>Just look at some of the banks and bailout recipients from the crisis and their auditor relationships:</div><div><br /></div><div><a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/10/31/going-concern-treasury-votes-to-reappoint-kpmg-as-auditor-of-citi/" style="color: #429ec6;">Citigroup and KPMG</a>&nbsp;- 41+ years</div><div><a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/02/02/the-great-american-financial-sandwich-aig-pwc-and-goldman-sachs/" style="color: #429ec6;">AIG and PwC</a> - 35+ years including being sued by shareholders multiple times and settling</div><div><a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/03/15/liberte-egalite-fraternite-lehman-brothers-troubles-for-ernst-young-threaten-the-big-4-fraternity/" style="color: #429ec6;">Lehman and Ernst &amp; Young</a> - As far back as 1975 with Shearson Lehman American Express</div><div><a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/11/21/deloitte-delphi-and-gm-duped-or-duplicitous/" style="color: #429ec6;">GM and Deloitte</a> - 90+ years including being sued by shareholders and a bankruptcy</div><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"></p></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">The most common reason for forced auditor rotation by some companies like Apple is to squeeze on cost.  Quality and objectivity suffers.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103471070396420097" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:20:00</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Staff is defining audit failure.  Responding to my tweet.  "Several hundred audit failures..." Not defined by litigation or bankruptcy.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103477094889160704" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 07:43:56</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;"><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">Some companies go through voluntary auditor rotation and periodic re-tendering. Other than the government agencies and pension plans that mandate this to prevent corruption and cronyism, I'm skeptical of the "good governance" excuse. In this economic environment, companies have the upper hand on vendors, including the "independent" audit and squeeze them to reduce fees or threaten to replace them.</p><div><br /></div><div>We should view the wholesale auditor changes that occurred during the first few years after Sarbanes-Oxley was passed in 2002 with a grain of salt. After the non-voluntary changes for Arthur Andersen clients, most of the rest were fraught with conflict and controversy.&nbsp;</div><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"></p></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Huge # rof major co auditor changes post-Andersen failure were not voluntary but easier because AA partners, team moved to successor firm.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103482733455622144" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 08:06:20</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">Good example of continuity post-Andersen failure audit change: Refco. Whole AA team to Grant Thornton Chicago.  We know how that worked out.</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103483535519776768" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 08:09:32</a></div></blockquote><div class="element text" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em;"><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;">The auditor change numbers PCAOB Chairman Doty quoted during the open meeting yesterday were post-Sarbanes fallout. Auditors were afraid of inspections and new liability and started reversing their position on long standing issues. They were afraid to answer for them during inspections. The <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/francinemckenna/2011/05/31/navistar-sues-deloitte-proving-no-statute-of-limitations-on-idiocy/" style="color: #429ec6;">Navistar debacle</a> is an example of that.&nbsp;</p><div><br /></div><div>So is the firing of <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/francinemckenna/2011/01/21/you-are-there-a-review-of-all-the-devils-are-here/" style="color: #429ec6;">Hank Greenberg from AIG.&nbsp;</a></div><div><br /></div><div>Many auditors were fired or forced to resign over rising Sarbanes-Oxley fees and some companies switched from Big 4 to next tier, some multiple times, chasing lower fees and an auditor that would go easier on them.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The <a href="http://retheauditors.com/2010/01/16/defending-koss-and-their-auditors-just-loopy-distorted-feedback/" style="color: #429ec6;">Koss scandal</a> is an example of a closely held "public" company trying to get away from Sarbanes-Oxley requirements and the fees. They switched from PwC who insisted on doing Sarbanes-Oxley work to Grant Thornton who did not (They are so small they were subject to the ongoing SOx exemption debate.) Koss got substantially lower fees. Their Director of Accounting stole $35+ million based on non-existent internal controls.</div><div><br /></div><div>Given the complacency of the PCAOB until now to push back hard on auditors for repeat deficiencies, I'd conclude the auditors had nothing to worry about.</div><p style="font-size: 14px; margin: 0;"></p></div><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@affzalkhan I've discussed my views on auditor rotation here.  http://bit.ly/r09hpf</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
<a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors/status/103484475001929729" class="date" style="color: #429ec6; font-size: 12px;">Tue, Aug 16 2011 08:13:16</a></div></blockquote><blockquote class="element twitter-tweet" style="margin: 0 0 15px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.4em; max-width: 500px;"><p style="font-size: 20px; margin: 0; line-height: 1.4em; font-family: Georgia,serif; margin-bottom: 5px;">@dandhicks My comments on the role of the audit committee in overseeing auditors and the audit is here.  http://bit.ly/fCLKKp</p><div class="meta">— <a href="http://twitter.com/retheauditors" style="color: #429ec6;">retheauditors</a> · 
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