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Academic Careers & Privilege (July 2, 2011)

  1. ernestopriego
    I find it curious some calls aren't shy about detailing all you'll have to be & do, but don't tell you what it is exactly you'll get.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:45:39
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  2. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Like a call for papers?
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:48:51
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  3. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui calls for applications, etc. It's assumed we're all benefited from working extra for no extra pay. Not everyone's case.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:50:03
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  4. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Yes, I notice that's the way academic work seems to be, much of the time...as a grad student, anyway.
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:50:54
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  5. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui yup. There's a need for a new paradigm in academia. People outside academia are quick to notice how unfair it is.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:51:44
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  6. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Sometimes I feel the university is the system that least values my education, credentials and skills-!
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:52:00
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  7. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui you're not alone in that. Sigh.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:52:33
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  8. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui main problem is there's always someone who benefits financially. The rest are supposed to work very hard just for the 'fame'.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:53:26
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  9. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Yes, we also get used to working for nothing. it's terrible conditioning for work outside the university as well!
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:55:18
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  10. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Within the logic of the system, our time & effort are significantly under-valued. That's my biggest realisation of last 2 yrs
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:53:49
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  11. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego ...well, the biggest thing that's really "sunk in" in a real way. It will affect my post-PhD choices for sure.
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:54:33
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  12. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui hear, hear. To me it has already.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:55:26
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  13. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui indeed! But most people don't say it out loud. It's assumed as a natural thing, like the weather. Drives me nuts.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:56:32
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  14. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego LOL--actually I might writ a UVenus post on this.
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 07:58:33
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  15. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui please do. I should do too. Reality is, those who have afforded to work for free will get jobs. The vicious circle is maddening.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:01:26
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  16. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Yes! That's how privilege is perpetuated in grad school. The conference system alone is ridiculous for grad students.
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:02:25
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  17. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego I'm doing a careers course right now where the message is totally different. More like "you can do almost anything you want"
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:01:08
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  18. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui indeed, but also for international early career academics. It is the violence of the unsaid... privilege remains systematic
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:04:07
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  19. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego do you mind if I "cite" your tweet? I just starting writing a blog post immediately, LOL
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:05:36
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  20. qui_oui
    @ernestopriego Yes, early career academics as well. No conferences, no travel, no grants, no promotion... no guarantees.
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:06:19
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  21. martin_eve
    RT @qui_oui: @ernestopriego Yes! That's how privilege is perpetuated in grad school. The conference system alone is ridiculous for grad students.
    martin_eve
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:10:26
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  22. qui_oui
    @martin_eve @ernestopriego Every time I explain conferences to my mother, she says "when are they going to start paying you to do this" ;-)
    qui_oui
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:16:31
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  23. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui your mum is so right. It's what everyone, including my wife (and my creditors) keep asking me...
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:27:54
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  24. JeffreyKeefer
    @qui_oui @martin_eve @ernestopriego Many of my colleagues in my office are shocked I pay my own way. Perhaps I should be shocked, too!
    JeffreyKeefer
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:20:17
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  25. ernestopriego
    @qui_oui no problem! Thank you.
    ernestopriego
    Sat, Jul 02 2011 08:26:38
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