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Mon, Jan 14 2013 00:25:57

Me and my brother

  1. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    The Tree of Life: Ten simple ways to share PDFs of your papers #PDFtribute goo.gl/fb/4s0O2
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 12:53:24
  2. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    .@BoraZ @phylogenomics anything except #1 is a copout
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 15:27:53
  3. ReedRoberts
    Reed Roberts@ReedRoberts
    @mbeisen @BoraZ @phylogenomics copouts can be useful though eg for PhDs who may have less control over where their papers go.
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 15:39:32
  4. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @ReedRoberts @mbeisen @boraz well going forward sure #1 is the way ... But people are posting past pubs and that is a good thing too
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 15:47:43
  5. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @phylogenomics @ReedRoberts @BoraZ because they didn't follow 1 at the time
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 15:48:59
  6. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @reedroberts @boraz yes of course ... But they didn't ... And posting those papers is a useful thing
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 15:51:12
  7. benoitbruneau
    Benoit Bruneau@benoitbruneau
    @phylogenomics @mbeisen @reedroberts @boraz it's reasonable Eisen vs absolute Eisen
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 17:41:29
  8. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @benoitbruneau @phylogenomics @ReedRoberts @BoraZ reasonable and $35 will get you access to an Elsevier article
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 17:44:14
  9. mrgunn
    mrgunn@mrgunn
    @mbeisen @BoraZ @phylogenomics taking the green road is a (hopefully not pepper spray wielding) cop out?
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:33:21
  10. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @mrgunn @BoraZ @phylogenomics yes
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:34:57
  11. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @mrgunn @BoraZ @phylogenomics it's a copout because it allows one to have cake and eat it too while doing nothing to fix system
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:35:55
  12. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz agree ... Lame in past .. Lamer in future .. But still want the PDFs from past posted ...
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:40:10
  13. mrgunn
    mrgunn@mrgunn
    @mbeisen @BoraZ @phylogenomics I wish everyone would stop putting work behind paywalls immediately, but green is a good transitional option.
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:43:10
  14. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    .@phylogenomics @mrgunn @BoraZ it's not that complicated, post old PDFs on your website and publish only in real #OA journals from now on
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:43:19
  15. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz not full #OpenAccess is a copout; was mostly writing this for people who have papers & didn't know where to post
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:43:58
  16. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @mrgunn @BoraZ @phylogenomics no it's not - it defuses the push to change how things work
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:44:10
  17. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz posting on your website isn't ideal .. Many don't get found easily ... I went back & submitted old pubs to PMC
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:45:26
  18. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @phylogenomics @mrgunn @BoraZ not sure they'll take them all
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:46:18
  19. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz and posting at mendeley and slideshare and Figshare increases reach too
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:46:40
  20. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @phylogenomics @mrgunn @BoraZ yes, but it is not legal, and the second it starts to impact subscriptions, it will be challenged
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:47:37
  21. mrgunn
    mrgunn@mrgunn
    @mbeisen @phylogenomics @BoraZ ideally part past stuff in a repository, full OA henceforth. I wouldn't advocate green for anything but past
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:47:57
  22. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz they won't take some of mine if I tell truth .. But all you need is an NIH grant ID to get in (if a research pub)
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:48:26
  23. mbeisen
    Michael Eisen@mbeisen
    @mrgunn @phylogenomics @BoraZ but note that it is illegal take PDF from many journals and post to your own site or archive
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:49:35
  24. mrgunn
    mrgunn@mrgunn
    @mbeisen @phylogenomics @BoraZ let em sue us all, then.
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:54:41
  25. phylogenomics
    Jonathan Eisen@phylogenomics
    @mbeisen @mrgunn @boraz maybe illegal in cases - but if everyone did it would get papers out there & be pain in closed access journals side
    Sun, Jan 13 2013 20:55:44

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