Public engagement - a waste of money?

The #scicomm discussion that arose after Ben Goldacre criticised the Science Museum for tweeting a link to the widely-panned "Dr Love" oxytocin story, and Simon Singh the IoP's "Lab in a Lorry" and their dance production with Ballet Rambert.

  1. i didnt mean to sound harsh, but the @sciencemuseum endorsing that silly "omg teh trust molecule!!!" stuff exemplifies, for me, the worst..
  2. .. in pop science communication. for reasons that i could, er, have, written, er, essays and long talks on. i'll get my coat
  3. i have a real problem with most state funded science engagement stuff in general. huge expense, small audiences, wrong approach.
  4. they all try to do commercial stuff, but without commercial success. can't help noticing that outside state funded sci eng world there is..
  5. @bengoldacre What's the alternative though ? Wide-reach profit-making corporate-sponsored research with dubious agenda & doubtful science ?
  6. (a) people like me and @robinince who make it (with hard ideas) work commercially and (b) blogs that get big audiences without state funding
  7. @bengoldacre Reckon this is due to funding source? Govt inevitably politically motivated, so start with desired conclusion & work backwards?
  8. i'll stop now. but srsly, give me one thousandth of the cash that's spent on science engagement and i would make shit happen.
  9. @bengoldacre @robinince u also utilise things like PR & media (for book things) and that helps. Many fail to use those properly & reach out
  10. @bengoldacre I was once given £1000 by the IOP for an engagement project. I'll happily give you £1 ;) (I have some sympathy for your view)
  11. @bengoldacre @robinince and media such as twitter for instant broadcasting with no cost. Engagement with science is a must for the world.
  12. clue: it would not involve spending millions on turning the RI into an exclusive (exclusive! ffs! exclusive!!) expensive venue for talks
  13. @bengoldacre often the social media accounts can be half efforts for things because people think it is 'a good thing to do'
  14. oh man i've opened a load of great chat and now i have to get to work. will read and reply this eve. do not want to leave this unfinished.
  15. @bengoldacre This cost 3000 GBP to date and we've answered over 6000 questions and had about 6 m views. askabiologist.org.uk
  16. @bengoldacre are some good examples of where unis especially can help w hard to reach areas like in the highlands - ausm.org.uk/2011/11/the-hi…
  17. @bengoldacre Chris Rapley, the director of the Science Museum, is a big fan of publicity and media engagement - but has overstepped the mark
  18. @bengoldacre don't get me started on all the things that are wrong with what was done at the RI, it makes me very sad. A wasted opportunity
  19. @bengoldacre agree, families, free tickets. Glasgow Science Centre offering free visits for primary kids. Science engagement starts at home.
  20. @bengoldacre But haven't both you and Ince have received huge support from the BBC? Where would Infinte Monkey Cage be without it?
  21. @bengoldacre I found out last night that @Bloodhound_SSC budget is £10-15m (no public £). Amazing value for the level of inspiration.
  22. Institute of Physics: 2 mentions for least cost-effective science engagement ideas labinalorry.org.uk & bbc.in/O9RBm2
  23. I'd be v interested to read blogs championing either of these bad ideas bit.ly/O9RCqc & bbc.in/O9RBm2

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drinks whisky, eats crumble, likes science, loves dancing. Outreach Manager @ThePhySoc (my views; not theirs). Co-founder of @ScienceShowoff and Producer of @Science_Grrl Calendar 2013.

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