Public engagement - a waste of money?
The #scicomm discussion that arose after Ben Goldacre criticised the Science Museum for tweeting a link to the widely-panned "Dr Love" oxytocin story, and Simon Singh the IoP's "Lab in a Lorry" and their dance production with Ballet Rambert.
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:51:28i didnt mean to sound harsh, but the @sciencemuseum endorsing that silly "omg teh trust molecule!!!" stuff exemplifies, for me, the worst..
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:52:28.. in pop science communication. for reasons that i could, er, have, written, er, essays and long talks on. i'll get my coat
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:53:27i have a real problem with most state funded science engagement stuff in general. huge expense, small audiences, wrong approach.
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:55:36they all try to do commercial stuff, but without commercial success. can't help noticing that outside state funded sci eng world there is..
- — jo abbess (@joabbess)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:56:11@bengoldacre What's the alternative though ? Wide-reach profit-making corporate-sponsored research with dubious agenda & doubtful science ?
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:56:17(a) people like me and @robinince who make it (with hard ideas) work commercially and (b) blogs that get big audiences without state funding
- — Sharon Shaw (@cai_boxer)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:56:22@bengoldacre Reckon this is due to funding source? Govt inevitably politically motivated, so start with desired conclusion & work backwards?
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:57:17i'll stop now. but srsly, give me one thousandth of the cash that's spent on science engagement and i would make shit happen.
- — Heather Doran (@hapsci)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:58:23
- — Alom Shaha (@alomshaha)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:58:31@bengoldacre I was once given £1000 by the IOP for an engagement project. I'll happily give you £1 ;) (I have some sympathy for your view)
- — Ben Turnbull (@Chiasmata)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:58:41
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:58:44clue: it would not involve spending millions on turning the RI into an exclusive (exclusive! ffs! exclusive!!) expensive venue for talks
- — ben goldacre (@bengoldacre)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:59:54oh man i've opened a load of great chat and now i have to get to work. will read and reply this eve. do not want to leave this unfinished.
- — Dave Hone (@Dave_Hone)Wed, Jul 18 2012 04:59:11
- — Heather Doran (@hapsci)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:00:16@bengoldacre are some good examples of where unis especially can help w hard to reach areas like in the highlands - http://ausm.org.uk/2011/11/the-highland-schools-tour/ …011/11/the-highland-schools-tour/
- — Mike Prior-Jones (@mrpj100)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:01:06@bengoldacre Chris Rapley, the director of the Science Museum, is a big fan of publicity and media engagement - but has overstepped the mark
- — Claire Coleman (@featuresjourno)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:01:09@bengoldacre don't get me started on all the things that are wrong with what was done at the RI, it makes me very sad. A wasted opportunity
- — Jen Stirrup (@jenstirrup)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:01:13@bengoldacre agree, families, free tickets. Glasgow Science Centre offering free visits for primary kids. Science engagement starts at home.
- — Darran Shepherd (@DarranShepherd)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:02:13
- — Simon Singh (@SLSingh)Wed, Jul 18 2012 05:03:33
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