Suzanne Moore: timeline of trans-misogynistic twitter rant
Columnist Suzanne Moore says "We are angry with ourselves for not being happier, not being loved properly and not having the ideal body shape – that of a Brazilian transsexual." from her Jan. 8 NewStatesman piece (linked first tweet below). My response: http://wp.me/p1NS4k-hq
I am angry. Here is my essay .Seeing red: the power of female anger newstatesman.com/politics/2013/…- The piece itself makes a point about the power of women's anger in seeking justice, but then...
Was loving this piece by Suzanne Moore on women's anger, then wham, SURPRISE TRANSPHOBIA. Ugh. newstatesman.com/politics/2013/…- Jo approaches the author about her strange comment about Brazilian trans women, that's when Suzanne Moore gets really nasty:
- @suzanne_moore I loved your piece on anger - except for the shock transphobia ("a Brazilian transsexual") - why on earth did you include it?
- @suzanne_moore calling someone "a transsexual" is like calling someone "a gay" - really creepy. "Trans woman" would've been better but...
- @suzanne_moore ... why include it at all? It's v weird & leaves a v nasty taste. Trans women deserve solidarity, not implicit shaming.
- @jonanamary I use the word transexual. I use lots of 'offensive' words. If you want to be offended it your prerogative.
- @suzanne_moore "offence" isn't the problem. Transphobia is. Transphobia *kills*. & intersectional feminism *demands* that we be in…
- @suzanne_moore …solidarity with trans* women & their cause. Pretty basic stuff. V disappointed that you delib misunderstood my point.
- @jonanamary dont "demand" of me. Transphobia is your term. I have issues with trans anything actually.
- Haha now @Suzanne_Moore thinks my issue with her transphobic comment is that I'm "offended". Um, nope. Try again.
- @jonanamary I dont prioritise this fucking lopping bits of your body over all else that is happening to women Intersectional enough for you?
@suzanne_moore @jonanamary sigh. So that's another person I'll cross of my increasingly short list of halfway decent people.- @jonanamary @JonnieMarbLes because I deliberately used the word Brazilian transexual as ideal shape small hips and big T and A. So ban me.
- .@suzanne_moore @jonniemarbles no, you used a trans woman's body as a punchline then tweeted vile shit about mutilation.
- Moore clarifies for us that she doesn't give a shit what we think about her using trans women's bodies as a punchline:
- Jumping back to the previous convo, let's recall that Moore's original piece is intended as a vindication of women's anger as a source of power against injustice:
- @jonanamary @JonnieMarbLes we are not getting anywhere really and a shame. The main points of my essay seem lost in your own anger now.
- Moore really goes to town from here:
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- Jesse PhillippeWOW! She doesn't think Islamophobia is a thing, either! So she's transphobic AND she probably supports the Northern Alliance Warlords (U.S. installed) who are...more2013-01-16T01:42:08.674Z
rodflemingIfound this interesting because it makes it very clear that from the very beginning, Moore's transmisogyny was just itching her till she had to scratch. There...more2013-01-14T20:56:22.351Z- Brett LindsayIts pretty clear that she wasn't a victim, perhaps there are other, offensive tweets levelled at her, but in my book if you go off the rails and begin making...more2013-01-14T18:01:07.257Z
- Fay RobertsWait, what - *this* is the horrific insults levelled at @suzanne_moore? Cuz... not much to read here except one journalist's defensiveness.2013-01-14T16:16:14.013Z
- Deep Roots Jessica@ Savannah Sounds more and more the opposite is the case, that females are not allowed to talk about our oppression in our own terms. I don't know what its like...more2013-01-09T19:38:10.151Z
- Jesse PhillippeWOW! She doesn't think Islamophobia is a thing, either! So she's transphobic AND she probably supports the Northern Alliance Warlords (U.S. installed) who are...WOW! She doesn't think Islamophobia is a thing, either! So she's transphobic AND she probably supports the Northern Alliance Warlords (U.S. installed) who are just as violent to women as the TALIBAN!more2013-01-16T01:42:08.674Z
- rodflemingIfound this interesting because it makes it very clear that from the very beginning, Moore's transmisogyny was just itching her till she had to scratch. There...Ifound this interesting because it makes it very clear that from the very beginning, Moore's transmisogyny was just itching her till she had to scratch. There is no way that she can be portrayed as the victim here.more2013-01-14T20:56:22.351Z
- Brett LindsayIts pretty clear that she wasn't a victim, perhaps there are other, offensive tweets levelled at her, but in my book if you go off the rails and begin making...Its pretty clear that she wasn't a victim, perhaps there are other, offensive tweets levelled at her, but in my book if you go off the rails and begin making insults and insensitive remarks about entire groups of people, then your going to be greeted by hostility. Suzanne could have responded politely, Jo's original comment was hardly an attack, instead she went off the rails and acted like she was being persecuted because someone disagreed with her.more2013-01-14T18:01:07.257Z
- Fay RobertsWait, what - *this* is the horrific insults levelled at @suzanne_moore? Cuz... not much to read here except one journalist's defensiveness.2013-01-14T16:16:14.013Z
- SavannahWho said women are not allowed to reject subordination by the patriarch? I reject such subordination absolutely and I fight it everyday. What we are saying is...Who said women are not allowed to reject subordination by the patriarch? I reject such subordination absolutely and I fight it everyday. What we are saying is you cannot blame the problem on trans women because we are not part of the patriarchy, we are oppressed by it as well.more2013-01-09T22:32:11.993Z
- Deep Roots Jessica@ Savannah Sounds more and more the opposite is the case, that females are not allowed to talk about our oppression in our own terms. I don't know what its like...@ Savannah Sounds more and more the opposite is the case, that females are not allowed to talk about our oppression in our own terms. I don't know what its like to feel trans (though I have felt not like a woman before, until I learned gender was bullshit and that I was socialized to feel weird with not being subordinate) so I don't think it my place to get in anyone's face about it. However the gender system was created with the intention of subordinating FEMALES, thus I think we have some say on matter of gender which has beenmore2013-01-09T19:38:10.151Z
