Tweet Chat: Marten Mickos, Eucalyptus Systems
On October 10, Eucalyptus CEO Marten Mickos joined GigaOM's Stacey Higginbotham for a tweet chat - both a ramp-up for Marten's appearance at Structure:Europe in Amsterdam, and to follow up on a few of the more provocative things that Marten said on stage at Structure in San Francisco in June.
It's almost time for the chat with @martenmickos I wonder if we can get him to compare OpenStack to the Soviet Union again #structurechat- Cloud adoption: European versus US/North American markets:
Curious @Martenmickos how you see cloud adoption rolling out in Europe compared to US/North America #structurechat
.@gigabarb Northern Europe, Germany and Benelux seem to be on the forefront #structurechat- Privacy: Are European data privacy regulations hampering the adoption of the private cloud (versus the public cloud) in Europe?
- What is European interest in private cloud versus public & the effect of regulations around data privacy? #structurechat #structurechat
- .@gigastacey We expect privacy views to boost private and other special cloud solutions, but not seeing much of that yet. #structurechat
- Is there public cloud adoption @martenmickos? What needs to happen to boost adoption? #structurechat #structurechat
- .@gigastacey Yep, we do see public cloud adoption in EU - with the big but also the regional players. #structurechat
- Barb Darrow tries to dig deeper into European privacy concerns and the European Commission's new cloud computing plan of action, which she covered for GigaOM in articles such as
Fighting FUD: cloud players try to make sense of European data laws (http://gigaom.com/cloud/fighting-fud-cloud-players-try-to-make-sense-of-european-data-protection-laws/)
European cloud plan addresses data protection problem. Sort of. (http://gigaom.com/cloud/ec-cloud-plan-addresses-data-protection-problem-sort-of/) - has the latest policy statement out of the EC helped or hurt understanding of data protection/privacy policy? #structurechat #structurechat
- .@gigabarb I'd say it always takes time for policy documents to turn into useful reality. #structurechat
- And, of course, Stacey (and a few of our chat participants) followed up on Marten's feisty appearance at Structure in San Francisco this past June, where he incited a lively onstage debate about OpenStack with Chris Kemp (Nebula/OpenStack) and Sameer Dholakia (Citrix), as summarized by GigaOM's Kevin Fitchard: http://gigaom.com/cloud/if-aws-is-the-walmart-of-cloud-is-openstack-the-soviet-union/
- At our Structure conf you got into a heated debate on OpenStack, can you explain how you view it today? #structurechat #structurechat
AWS = Walmart, Openstack = Soviet Union. Great debat flpbd.it/29GoP #structurechat- .@gigastacey The debate was about APIs. We believe clouds are all about APIs. Common APIs give apps freedom to run anywhere. #structurechat
- So is the OpenStack API going to become common enough for your customers to adopt? #structurechat #structurechat
- .@gigastacey We are not seeing it among our users or in the market. Other APIs may become more popular. #structurechat
@martenmickos @gigastacey but for many, it's not the APIs, but the end utility. APIs can easily be adopted or mediated to.- At #OpenStack Summit they'll claim vendor/developer adoption. How do u see competitive landscape in open source cloud? #structurechat
- .@gigabarb Open source cloud *is* the innovation. OpenStack, CloudStack, Open Nebula, Eucalyptus. Blazing the trail. #structurechat
- .@gigabarb OpenStack certainly has vendor/dev popularity. CloudStack strong with service providers. Open Nebula with HPC. #structurechat
- So open source clouds just aren't ready yet? What will it take for them to gain adoption? #structurechat
- @gigastacey it's not about open source clouds not being ready. They are architecturally hindered and solve the wrong set of problems.
