Literature is not Data: Against Digital Humanities flpbd.it/tzq67 someone is angry here- @nathanjurgenson "Let me tell you a story about a passionate Frenchman, Jean-François, and his great love of databanks..."
@alexismadrigal @evgenymorozov "Meaning is mushy. Meaning falls apart. Meaning is often ugly" media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3puv7r…- @nathanjurgenson @alexismadrigal the fun part is that this essay appeared in a "review of books" that is itself online-only
- @nathanjurgenson @alexismadrigal just think of the rhymes! "Meaning is mushy, says Kim Kardashian"
RT @evgenymorozov: Literature is not Data: Against Digital Humanities flpbd.it/tzq67 someone is angry here #transformDH- @alexismadrigal @evgenymorozov careful, @nathanjurgenson, your own hostility may be showing. is sociology part of the humanities btw?
@dgolumbia "In 2002, on a Friday, Larry Page began to end the book as we know it." Silly and totalizing (and historically wrong).
@alexismadrigal @evgenymorozov @nathanjurgenson I haven't read it fully yet but there is a case to be made against quantification of lit.- @mkirschenbaum it's not a great piece and my RT was not an endorsement, but that's not the part of it I find important or correct
- @alexismadrigal @evgenymorozov @nathanjurgenson Great insights were gained thru DH methods. But as w most academic fads, it gets unbalanced.
- @dgolumbia sociology is social science but lots of crossover. what's been hostile?
- @mkirschenbaum i have a lot to say on this topic but this is wrong place for it. IMO more right than not about data vs meaning, algorithms.
- @nathanjurgenson "satire" "hahahaha" "Onion Talk" quote about meaning all struck me as pretty harsh. it's not great, but there's a lot right
- @nathanjurgenson replying to meaning quote (which i think basically right, & cd back up) w/HIMYM gif... seemed pretty over the top to me
- @dgolumbia it's part of a longer critique of his atlantic piece and a sexist essay in vanity fair, etc
- @dgolumbia well, started as "critique", now a bit of a joke. so, yeah, i'll grant that's harsh, but i think warranted
- @dgolumbia my basic rejoinder would be that no serious text analysis practitioner (and let's distinguish that from the #DH construct, plz) +
- @dgolumbia would claim any simple equivalency between "results" and "meaning." What's always missing in these pop pieces is the iterative +
- @dgolumbia nature of the analytics, the feedback loop between human and algorithm. Thus his final reminder that insight is always handmade +
@mkirschenbaum @dgolumbia That LARB piece falls short the same way that nearly every critique of a new method fails: +
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Divad Golumbia
Also Golumbia, Gloumbia, uncomputing.org, uiuuii.com. author, The Cultural Logic of Computation (Harvard UP, 2009). digital skeptic. name spelled wrong.
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