Jay Rosen, Jack Shafer start fact-checking debate on Twitter
Coming off the Republican National Convention, much ink has spilled on the spilled ink over holding politicians accountable for what they say.
For the last six weeks I've been wrestling with "post-truth" politics and the fact-checking press. Here are the posts: pressthink.org/2012/08/pressp…
"The truth? C’mon, this is a political convention" by @GlennKesslerWP wapo.st/N74AZ7- Expect more of this. @jackshafer thinks the fact checking surge is silly because politicians always lie so WTF. blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/201…
@jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer I think the fact checker craze lately is bad because they are often wrong or just bend to pressure- Never said silly. Support factchecking. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer thinks factchecking surge is silly b/c politicians always lie so WTF.
- @jackshafer You clearly think the recent excitement over fact checking is naive and clueless, and silly is a perfectly apt summary of that.
- Do not. MT @jayrosen_nyu: @jackshafer You think the excitement over factchecking naive and clueless, and silly is a apt summary of that.
@jayrosen_nyu You shouldn't expect to be taken seriously as a media critic if you're not wary of the fact checking trend. @jackshafer- What access? RT @UnsaltedSinner @jayrosen_nyu No surprises there. He couldn't leave all that delicious access to Glenn Kessler and Ben Smith
@jayrosen_nyu @jackshafer Church of Savvy then? Something is certainly making all the cool kids sneer at fact-checking.- .@jayrosen_nyu you're reading into my piece reut.rs/T1dFVH stuff that isn't there. Don't think f-c'ing is silly, naive or clueless.
@jackshafer how dare you factcheck @jayrosen_nyu 's accusations about your views on factchecking.- @jackshafer Readers will decide if calling the recent fact checking machinations of journalists "futile" is supportive or derisive.
- Yes, for campaigns. MT @sudeepLA: @jayrosen_nyu You support political factchecking but think it's as effective as factchecking a sermon?
- You' think factchecking effective? MT @jayrosen_nyu: Readers will decide if calling the fact checking "futile" is supportive or derisive.
@jackshafer "fact check profession": you mean journalism? Used to be a component. What do journalists if not fact checking? @jayrosen_nyu- @jackshafer On the effectiveness of fact checking, I refer you to Brendan Nyhan's argument in CJR. m.cjr.org/303546/show/c3…?
@jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu If lie is called out & pol keeps using it, keep calling it out. Christ! They know repetition works; U should too.
RT @conor64: On fact-checking: what if it's useful in theory but today's "objective" reporters lack the skill set for it? cc. @jackshafe ...
@jgriffaz_ @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu IMHO, journalists free to include their opinion are better at deciding what counts as a fact.
@conor64 @jackshafer @jayrosen_nyu I don't want journos deciding for me what facts are relevant. Report what happened. I'll do the rest.
@conor64 @jayrosen_nyu Confused on what skill set it takes to pick up a phone, check a database, etc. Isn't factchecking about asking?
@jayrosen_nyu You're all going too far over the line on truthiness. It's become a guerilla sport for journos.
