If the ACLU reading of this bill is accurate, you or I can be picked up by the US army and locked away forever legally http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

For you, that risk might not be significant. For me, "locked away forever without trial" is a risk in some scenarios. http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

If you wonder why my stance is so militant, it's because I can easily imagine a future version of myself in Guantanamo Bay or worse.

Without any possibility of standing trial to prove my actions legal, or to clear my name. Fascism has arrived, and it's your responsibility.

"Whatever happened to Vinay?" "Oh, he was disappeared by the Americans."n "Wow. Is there anything we can do about that?" "No."

If the reading of this bill is accurate - it may be a few days- we must join together, stance militant, and change their minds about the law

If known for years that if somebody misinterpreted my pro-Liberty stance as being anti-State I could potentially be "Assanged" in future.

I'd run that risk in, for example, martial law situations where my approach to risk management clashed with the government's recommendations

@thatsoph If Assange had been treated as any other person *accused* of that crime (can we have a trial please?) he'd be on the street today.

@thatsoph that's what we have courts *for* - to ascertain the facts of the case, including all factors.

I've known these risks, and the possibility this was coming, for years. You have to understand my strategy has been relative to such bad law

I've shaped my politics and my work to minimize the chances and damage from direct collision with the State. But am I to just roll over?

There's your chilling effect, right there. I'm chilled to the bone. Have they made themselves my enemy by declaring me to be theirs?

What is the safe line for protest? Did I cross it with the Riot Snorkel http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/protecting-democratic-protest-from-suppression-using-sublethal-chemical-weapons-2918 Would I cross it with crypto tools? Where?

Remember, America's next president, after Obama, will likely be a Republican: next year or four years hence. This bill, in those hands.

So it might be time to figure out what getting serious about restoring Constitutional government in the US looks like, before it's too late.

I think we should also consider putting pressure on the UK government to defend any British citizen so seized. We have nuclear weapons too.

And if you don't see the connection between our nuclear arsenal, and the US's global claim to be able to imprison at will, you're blind.

Would your government stand between you and the US, and protect you from indefinite detention without trial? Would they fight a war for you?

Because this is not on: we need to harden position relative to the US *immediately* and tell them "hands off British citizens, or else"

Otherwise, we are not a country, and we have no laws, no courts, and no government: we're simply a compliant vassal state of Fascist America

One way or the other, I think there is good cause to believe we will need to prepare for violence in defense of our rights in the long run.

If you think I'm paranoid, go talk to some old Jews, and read the sequence of laws and actions in Hitler's Germany. Laws, then action.

We can demand assurances from the British government that it will defend British citizens against illegal action from America. A campaign.

A couple of hundred thousand Brits raising hell to get the Government to put it in writing that the US cannot do this to brits might be key.